G STAR RAM Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Oh no, no, no. You made the accusation, you provide the evidence. Accusation? I asked if anybody had seen the video that Farage had made, probably should have said what he alleged said was happening. As I cant prove it though, I assume you both have evidence to the contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Oh no, no, no. You made the accusation, you provide the evidence. Things not worth defending... 1. The indefensible I've run out of anything to add to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: BBC with another question completely irrelevant to the coronavirus briefing. Whats the point of asking questions that are relevant to this crisis. When the only answers they get from Johnson and his cabinet are lies and waffle. Something that Starmer is quickly realising during PMQs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just now, 1of4 said: Whats the point of asking questions that are relevant to this crisis. When the only answers they get from Johnson and his cabinet are lies and waffle. Something that Starmer is quickly realising during PMQs Because it a coronavirus briefing, not question time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Accusation? I asked if anybody had seen the video that Farage had made, probably should have said what he alleged said was happening. As I cant prove it though, I assume you both have evidence to the contrary? You honestly think none of this is an accusation? 'Anybody see the Farage video of the French navy escorting boats of illegal immigrants into British waters? How can they justify that? They are actively aiding criminals.' Ticks a lot of the eye-bulging right's boxes - illegal immigrants, criminals, the EU (the French, no less). Give us the evidence that the video is what YOU say it is. Take responsibility for your utterance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Eddie said: Things not worth defending... 1. The indefensible I've run out of anything to add to the list The realm?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: You honestly think none of this is an accusation? 'Anybody see the Farage video of the French navy escorting boats of illegal immigrants into British waters? How can they justify that? They are actively aiding criminals.' Ticks a lot of the eye-bulging right's boxes - illegal immigrants, criminals, the EU (the French, no less). Give us the evidence that the video is what YOU say it is. Take responsibility for your utterance. Have said twice that I do not have evidence other than the video, which may not show what it is purported to. I assume you can prove that it is not showing what it says it is for you to be getting your knickers in such a twist? Just send me a link to where either country has refuted the claim, they must have done it by now. Or is it just the lefts usual stance to try and deflect away from an issue that they know they cannot defend? I'll be honest, I got the sort of responses I expected and from the sort of posters I expected them from, no doubt there will be more to come. Cant wait to hear what you all think the video is showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Ticks a lot of the eye-bulging right's boxes - Accusations that the right have bulging eyes? Prove it. Something something, utterances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Norman said: Accusations that the right have bulging eyes? Prove it. Something something, utterances There you go http://www.cynical-c.com/2017/08/14/angry-nazi-at-angry-nazi-rally-claims-he-is-not-an-angry-nazi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: Show me how in any way that video shows what you claimed it did? Any evidence whatsoever will do. Another from Sky news. https://news.sky.com/video/migrants-rescued-from-dinghy-in-channel-are-brought-into-dover-11992027 Criminal Gangs all along the French and Belgian coast charging upwards of €6000 for a place on any floating vessel, Also being helped along by the French authorities in some circumstances, And whole heartedly helped by the British Border Force, Who give them free transport and passage to the UK, all immigrants are checked over sent to Yarleswood detention centre then let free as Covid-19 was rife in Yarleswood, Those who have or had Covid-19 were given medical support. The British Government are complicit in facilitating illigal imigration and could be knowingly/unknowingly supporting terrorism, Either by the payment of monies to the Gangs or anyone of the immigrants being a Terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Have said twice that I do not have evidence other than the video, which may not show what it is purported to. I assume you can prove that it is not showing what it says it is for you to be getting your knickers in such a twist? Just send me a link to where either country has refuted the claim, they must have done it by now. Or is it just the lefts usual stance to try and deflect away from an issue that they know they cannot defend? I'll be honest, I got the sort of responses I expected and from the sort of posters I expected them from, no doubt there will be more to come. Cant way to hear what you all think the video is showing. Nobody has any evidence of anything. I'm calling you out because you stated what it contained without proof. You may be right, you may not be right. Nobody's deflecting. Just asking what you base your accusation on. It turns out to be nothing. Nothing at all. Quick to accuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, TramRam said: Another from Sky news. https://news.sky.com/video/migrants-rescued-from-dinghy-in-channel-are-brought-into-dover-11992027 Criminal Gangs all along the French and Belgian coast charging upwards of €6000 for a place on any floating vessel, Also being helped along by the French authorities in some circumstances, And whole heartedly helped by the British Border Force, Who give them free transport and passage to the UK, all immigrants are checked over sent to Yarleswood detention centre then let free as Covid-19 was rife in Yarleswood, Those who have or had Covid-19 were given medical support. The British Government are complicit in facilitating illigal imigration and could be knowingly/unknowingly supporting terrorism, Either by the payment of monies to the Gangs or anyone of the immigrants being a Terrorist. What do you do with boatloads of people on tiny boats in the busiest shipping lane in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Nobody has any evidence of anything. I'm calling you out because you stated what it contained without proof. You may be right, you may not be right. Nobody's deflecting. Just asking what you base your accusation on. It turns out to be nothing. Nothing at all. Quick to accuse. Other than a video, showing naval looking vessels followed by dinghys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: What do you do with boatloads of people on tiny boats in the busiest shipping lane in the world? Rescue them and send them back from whence they came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: What do you do with boatloads of people on tiny boats in the busiest shipping lane in the world? Hang on, are you not going to contact Sky for evidence first? https://news.sky.com/info/contact-us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, TramRam said: Another from Sky news. https://news.sky.com/video/migrants-rescued-from-dinghy-in-channel-are-brought-into-dover-11992027 Criminal Gangs all along the French and Belgian coast charging upwards of €6000 for a place on any floating vessel, Also being helped along by the French authorities in some circumstances, And whole heartedly helped by the British Border Force, Who give them free transport and passage to the UK, all immigrants are checked over sent to Yarleswood detention centre then let free as Covid-19 was rife in Yarleswood, Those who have or had Covid-19 were given medical support. The British Government are complicit in facilitating illigal imigration and could be knowingly/unknowingly supporting terrorism, Either by the payment of monies to the Gangs or anyone of the immigrants being a Terrorist. That's a completely different video than the one offered up as proof of the viewpoint offered up. I'm not even arguing that the Farage video wasn't genuine in what it was claimed to show, just that nothing in its content proved anything one way or the other. Another separate video from Sky News is neither here nor there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Other than a video, showing naval looking vessels followed by dinghys. We must be talking about different videos. The one I saw on Farage's Twitter feed showed nothing of the sort. It showed a couple of naval vessels pointing in opposite directions and a close up of a dinghy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Hang on, are you not going to contact Sky for evidence first? https://news.sky.com/info/contact-us That Sky video is unrelated. It's clearly a British ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: That's a completely different video than the one offered up as proof of the viewpoint offered up. I'm not even arguing that the Farage video wasn't genuine in what it was claimed to show, just that nothing in its content proved anything one way or the other. Another separate video from Sky News is neither here nor there. Some figures for you. https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/474/unauthorised-channel-crossings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TramRam said: Some figures for you. https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/474/unauthorised-channel-crossings So much for control of our borders. Nobody thought it was going to get more difficult, did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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