i-Ram Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Archied said: I know this won’t register with you but the truth is just like governments lots of people look at unions and feel their leadership s and actions are just not representative of them at all ,,, very sad but unions have played a part in their own demise and that’s from someone who grew up staunch union Glad you are still posting in here Archie. I’ve got your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 45 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Glad you are still posting in here Archie. I’ve got your back. Always going to post as it’s impossible to resist pointing out the flawed arguments and double standards of some then watching the swerve , ignore or downright vitriolic insults thrown as the only way out , also it’s constructive for me to hear other points of view as they can change my thinking as long as I remain able to listen , just a case of not falling for the insults trap a very few posters feel is acceptable as reasonable debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Our council have advised to delay to the 15th June. We weren't going to put our kids back in school on June 1st anyway. My friend who is a teacher doesn't want to go back on June 1st under current circumstances, though I get the impression she hates having to do the work from home. It's piss all to do with politics and everything to do with ensuring the safety of the kids and staff. Would be interested what science your council have used to determine that 14 days will make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Would be interested what science your council have used to determine that 14 days will make a difference. But my guess is, not interested enough to ask them https://www.seftondirectory.com/kb5/sefton/directory/service.page?id=KZHIZlRDN_Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: But my guess is, not interested enough to ask them https://www.seftondirectory.com/kb5/sefton/directory/service.page?id=KZHIZlRDN_Y Would be if my kids were involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Would be if my kids were involved. Are you saying the science is two week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Would be if my kids were involved. So not interested at all then? Why say that you were when clearly that wasn't the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Eddie said: There isn't one member of the cabinet whose child/children (that they know of) is not in private education - and (as far as I am aware) no private schools are reopening until September. "Do as I say, not as I do" appears to be the Tory mantra once again. Seeing as they are so keen at changing slogans, I fully expect next week's one to be "Die for the FTSE". Do you have any evidence that not one cabinet members child is in state education? I'd be interested to know where you'd find such facts, seeing as it would involve the data of minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: Do you have any evidence that not one cabinet members child is in state education? I'd be interested to know where you'd find such facts, seeing as it would involve the data of minors. Gove definitely sent one kid to a state school when he was education secretary. It made the news at the time. No other Tory education secretary had ever done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Gove definitely sent one kid to a state school when he was education secretary. It made the news at the time. No other Tory education secretary had ever done so. Yeah I saw that when looking, but drew a blank beyond that! It's hard enough searching the no-marks in the Cabinet, without looking up their kids too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: So not interested at all then? Why say that you were when clearly that wasn't the case? Interested to see if they had published any guidance. Is that ok with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Interested to see if they had published any guidance. Is that ok with you? What did you find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: What did you find? They need the time to carry out risk assessments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: They need the time to carry out risk assessments. I guess that each individual school is going to need dozens of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I guess that each individual school is going to need dozens of those things. You would hope that the DofE would put a template in place for all schools to follow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Eddie said: There isn't one member of the cabinet whose child/children (that they know of) is not in private education - and (as far as I am aware) no private schools are reopening until September. "Do as I say, not as I do" appears to be the Tory mantra once again. Seeing as they are so keen at changing slogans, I fully expect next week's one to be "Die for the FTSE". Do you know for a fact that no member of the cabinet has a child at a state school or is it just that you'd prefer to believe Alasdair Campbell's allegation rather than Gove's response? You're may well be tempted to point out that Gove didn't mention which member(s) of the cabinet had a child at a state school but, I'm not sure that is sufficient evidence that he was not telling the truth. I wouldn't necessarily expect him to give specific personal details. Personally, I'm not sure I'd trust either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I'm not sure of the relevance of whether their kids are in private school or not. I personally don't believe they wouldn't relish the chance to make a huge show of sending their kids in to school if they could. Seems strange logic that anti-Tory posters are saying the cabinet are making decisions because it doesn't put themselves/family at risk, yet they are also complaining they have been actively encouraging/flaunting risk from the beginning (shaking hands in public) and half of them have already had it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Do you know for a fact that no member of the cabinet has a child at a state school or is it just that you'd prefer to believe Alasdair Campbell's allegation rather than Gove's response? You're may well be tempted to point out that Gove didn't mention which member(s) of the cabinet had a child at a state school but, I'm not sure that is sufficient evidence that he was not telling the truth. I wouldn't necessarily expect him to give specific personal details. Personally, I'm not sure I'd trust either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 If I had the money, my kids would be getting a private education. Calling in to question a person's decision making ability, or even integrity, based on the fact that they've taken such a decision for their own children, would seem unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 So who's going fruit-picking or helping with the harvest this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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