v Wigan Athletic (A) - Matchday Thread

[Marriot Ram99]

3 minutes ago, SaintRam said:

Bogle, Lowe, Bird and Knight all in the 11. At FT we could see over the half the XI being academy products. Exciting, imo. 

Yes very exciting is n't it, we are building together quite a nice looking team for League 1 next season.  Seriously I couldn't care less if we are bringing through young players if there is a load of dross around them, every decent team needs a solid spine of senior players. My only hope is with Shinnie and Rooney in the team + a potential new signing in January we may be slightly better.

[GrimsbyRam]

3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

? but yeah cos Holmes is great! 

Neither Waghorn nor Martin have had any service. Bogle can't cross and seems committed to shoot on sight. Same for Lawrence.

Regardless Martin and Waghorn do not work together!

[BriggRam]

11 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

Said it weeks ago, we’re in a relegation scrap make no mistake about it 

the only thing up for discussion is where and at who we point fingers at 

Keogh ???

[Sheikh n Bake]

1 minute ago, Bob The Badger said:

I dunno if he's desperate, but we saw what happened last week when we went down to 10 men.

Not sure if you're watching the game, but Bielik was odds on to go off and that has/had zero to do with Cocu.

 

How can it have nothing to do with Cocu?

Cocu sets the team formation. If we're being overran in the midfield, Phil needs to do something about it. If Bielik is being over aggressive in the tackle or careless, Phil needs to have a word. 

We've got a keeper who most are reasonably happy about. Hamer has done nothing terrible. He's Mr Average.

A right back who most on here would say he's one of the best in the league.

A centre back in Davies who some seem to think he's a good leader and has plenty of experience.

Forsyth at the back who seems to make everyones team of the decade.

Lowe at Left Back who I'm not the biggest fan of but has great potential.

Bielik who cost £8m+ who looks our best player.

Knight who looks like one of the best prospects from the academy in recent years.

Duane Holmes who everyone loves his energy and is one of the first names on most peoples team sheet.

Chris Martin upfront who loads of people love on here; a great player to have in a 433 for link up play.

Tom Lawrence who has shown some terrible form, but has had a good few seasons previously and I think there's still a great player there.

Waghorn who proved under Lampard he's a great asset.

........................

Yet Wigan are making us look like ducking amateurs and it has nothing to do with Cocu?

[Rambam]

6 minutes ago, Needlesh said:

Cobblers.

Care to elaborate?

[Sexydadbod]

3 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

It really doesn't matter who is up front,none of them are having any service.....

Agreed, but any good manager would do something about this rather than standing back and doing nothing, for example, stop trying to play out the back because we haven’t got the players in defence or midfield to play that way and instead, bypass the midfield by putting two up front and getting the ball to them quicker, long balls from the back, just do something- Ideally Martin and Marriott because Waghorn and Martin doesn’t really work.

[sage]

Just now, Whoneedshuls said:

Ed Dawes Craig rammage 

That's him. Sooooo mardy. Can't RD employ an adult?

[Bob The Badger]

 

4 minutes ago, 1967Ram said:

 Do we need to change the formation?.

That is like asking the Charge of the Light Brigade if they should gallop slightly quicker.

[SaintRam]

Just now, G STAR RAM said:

Would be exciting if we blooding them into an energetic team playing a decent brand of football...

Once they outnumber the old poo bags we cling on to they'll take over in terms of energy. 

The biggest shame we have as a club as our U23 CBs are the probably the most rough around the edges of our young players. If only one of our star youngsters was one with the first team in this shape ? 

[AndyinLiverpool]

5 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

This is gonna be 0-0 and Cocu will be delighted at the point and clean sheet

won't we all be delighted with a clean sheet?

[SaintRam]

Corner to Derby. Waghorn claiming a penalty. Miscommunication seems the ball loop into the air under the bar and he gets clattered to the ground as he goes to finish it. Looks a really good shout. 

[Bob The Badger]

1 minute ago, Nick_Ram said:

How can it have nothing to do with Cocu?

Cocu sets the team formation. If we're being overran in the midfield, Phil needs to do something about it. If Bielik is being over aggressive in the tackle or careless, Phil needs to have a word. 

We've got a keeper who most are reasonably happy about. Hamer has done nothing terrible. He's Mr Average.

A right back who most on here would say he's one of the best in the league.

A centre back in Davies who some seem to think he's a good leader and has plenty of experience.

Forsyth at the back who seems to make everyones team of the decade.

Lowe at Left Back who I'm not the biggest fan of but has great potential.

Bielik who cost £8m+ who looks our best player.

Knight who looks like one of the best prospects from the academy in recent years.

Duane Holmes who everyone loves his energy and is one of the first names on most peoples team sheet.

Chris Martin upfront who loads of people love on here; a great player to have in a 433 for link up play.

Tom Lawrence who has shown some terrible form, but has had a good few seasons previously and I think there's still a great player there.

Waghorn who proved under Lampard he's a great asset.

........................

Yet Wigan are making us look like ducking amateurs and it has nothing to do with Cocu?

Dude, when it comes to cherry picking information to support a belief, you are totally world-class!

[REDCAR]

1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

won't we all be delighted with a clean sheet?

That’s gone and stuffed it ?

[Millenniumram]

Just now, AndyinLiverpool said:

won't we all be delighted with a clean sheet?

Well yes, but I’m not gonna lie, I’d rather we just went for the win. Give me a 4-3 win rather than a 0-0 draw any day. Feels to me most the time we focus on getting the latter, rather risking for the former.

[Cam the Ram]

Serious question here, but what has Cocu done to improve the team/club since his arrival. He speaks well in interviews and makes you want him to succeed, but we're going backwards and have been for a while now. I don't think there's a single player who's improved under Cocu's management and it's taken injuries and suspensions to see the youngster get their chance despite the senior players performing poorly. 

[SaintRam]

Couple of nearly moments as well as that decent penalty in the first two minutes of the 2nd half. 

[SKRam]

1 hour ago, RamNut said:

Maybe because he really is going to Hull?

 Bet he thinks he’s already been to Hull and back ?

[Whoneedshuls]

New adding Derby to btts acca was a mistake ?? 

[Tyler Durden]

1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

won't we all be delighted with a clean sheet?

Not if we don't score for another successive away game especially against the divisions bottom team

[SaintRam]

Martin with a couple of unusually poor touches as Holmes won the ball and looked to play out; nothing egregious but not what we've become accustomed to from him.

Derby attack again with Lawrence. He plays Martin down the left who fires a decent cross in but it misses Waghorn. Derby maintain possession on the right but it eventually ends up out for a Wigan throw.