ariotofmyown Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Curtains said: This is serious stuff so why would it be funny. The country doesn’t need anymore delay . Can I ask what is your occupation I'm a hedge fund manager who has betted heavily on the uk economy tanking. Bring on Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: There he goes again. Evidence, evidence, evidence. Let's see some evidence of collusion. You made a point, how about you provide a recording of the MPs you've accused of colluding with the EU? Didn't think so. At least you've gone back to talking like an adult today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: At least you've gone back to talking like an adult today... Wish I could say the same for you old bean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Wish I could say the same for you old bean. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: It's actual evidence as opposed to the assumption that something has happened. Where are the trascripts of the people you mention speaking with EU MP's that contain evidence that they colluded against the government? What has been provided there is actual evidence which has been reported on, I have seen nothing of the sort to back up your assertion. Ok fair enough, so do you not believe that we had politicians going to Brussels to negotiate with the EU behind our governments back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Ok fair enough, so do you not believe that we had politicians going to Brussels to negotiate with the EU behind our governments back? What are your thoughts on the government moves to disband the Brexit department and remove the negotiations wtih the EU from any scrutiny? Given that you are complaining here about EU negotiations being done behind backs - do you not care that this government could literaly negotiate anything with the EU and no one even gets to see the detail of what it is until it is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: I'm a hedge fund manager who has betted heavily on the uk economy tanking. Bring on Brexit. So Henry, How much are you investing in the Rams and who is your wealthy backer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Wouldn’t it be a thing if having ‘won’ so graciously, a member of the DCFC Tory fan club were to discuss Tory policy and advise us as to what to expect moving forwards. Fiscal policies, social care, child poverty and the like. You know, the less important stuff than articles from the Daily Fail and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Wouldn’t it be a thing if having ‘won’ so graciously, a member of the DCFC Tory fan club were to discuss Tory policy and advise us as to what to expect moving forwards. Fiscal policies, social care, child poverty and the like. You know, the less important stuff than articles from the Daily Fail and co. Are we going for a tumbleweed hat-trick here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 minute ago, SchtivePesley said: Are we going for a tumbleweed hat-trick here? Diane Abbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Wouldn’t it be a thing if having ‘won’ so graciously, a member of the DCFC Tory fan club were to discuss Tory policy and advise us as to what to expect moving forwards. Fiscal policies, social care, child poverty and the like. You know, the less important stuff than articles from the Daily Fail and co. Spend, spend , spend. What I think and hope you will see is a gradual end to austerity and finally some investment into social projects. They will be committed to investment into the NHS. I really do believe that you will see a more caring Conservative party, that's not to say they won't still make unpopular decisions with spending but that has to be the case. It will be gradual and strategic as it should be. Brexit getting done and investment coming in. I don't buy this far right Tory party malarky, I see completely the opposite. They will want to keep as much of that churn from the Labour support base as possible. All noise at the moment I grant but I like the noise I am hearing. I appreciate for some whatever he/they do will never be enough and 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' would have delivered everything in 10 mins and never mind the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Spend, spend , spend. What I think and hope you will see is a gradual end to austerity and finally some investment into social projects. They will be committed to investment into the NHS. I really do believe that you will see a more caring Conservative party, that's not to say they won't still make unpopular decisions with spending but that has to be the case. It will be gradual and strategic as it should be. Brexit getting done and investment coming in. I don't buy this far right Tory party malarky, I see completely the opposite. They will want to keep as much of that churn from the Labour support base as possible. All noise at the moment I grant but I like the noise I am hearing. I appreciate for some whatever he/they do will never be enough and 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' would have delivered everything in 10 mins and never mind the cost. Thank you Angry! Well all that actually sounds quite promising. Here’s hoping Boris repays you’re good faith. God knows we all need something to lift our spirits, Christmas aside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: I don't buy this far right Tory party malarky, I see completely the opposite. Is that because you didn't read the link I posted about Britain First, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins all joining (and encouraging their "supporters") to join? I see no ships eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Angry Ram said: Not followed the impeachment thing too closely as it will be a dead end. I am sure Trump pushes the envelopes to the limit and sometimes crosses lines. He is also well overdue a big cumuppance that will bring him back to earth. Whistleblowers, he said, she said, other agenda's.. Is there any proof either way? My gut tells me he probably did do something but was it as bad as is being made out. As with everything in American politics, it's not always clear and the truth is in the middle there somewhere. Like I said not really followed it that closely, so there may well be a smoking gun there, in which case, yes impeachable. Trump won't be made to go. Impeachment is futile and only strengthens his personal brand and will only assist in his campaign. Unless something that harms his popularity with republican base support comes out around late summer can't see him not being re-elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Is that because you didn't read the link I posted about Britain First, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins all joining (and encouraging their "supporters") to join? I see no ships eh? There ya go.. All you see is bloody ships. Take Tommy Robinson and Katie H and I will trade you all your Momentum radicals. The thing is Tommy and Katie will be minority voices and that is okay in a democracy. You hero's are setting policy. I know which one I would want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Trump won't be made to go. Impeachment is futile and only strengthens his personal brand and will only assist in his campaign. Unless something that harms his popularity with republican base support comes out around late summer can't see him not being re-elected. Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Take Tommy Robinson and Katie H and I will trade you all your Momentum radicals. The thing is Tommy and Katie will be minority voices and that is okay in a democracy. You hero's are setting policy. I know which one I would want. I think you misunderstand if you think Momentum were setting policies. They were a network of left wing activists trying to build grass roots support for the a socialist Labour Party - nothing more. Britain First, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins are the right wing equivalents, except up until now they had nothing to do with the Tory Party. They were indeed just minority voices for the racists, xenophobes, generation identity and white supremacists. They've now joined your team. Quote and that is okay Glad we've established that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: I think you misunderstand if you think Momentum were setting policies. They were a network of left wing activists trying to build grass roots support for the a socialist Labour Party - nothing more. Britain First, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins are the right wing equivalents, except up until now they had nothing to do with the Tory Party. They were indeed just minority voices for the racists, xenophobes, generation identity and white supremacists. They've now joined your team. Glad we've established that. 2 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Your local meeting of the Labour / Momentum / SLP party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: I think you misunderstand if you think Momentum were setting policies. They were a network of left wing activists trying to build grass roots support for the a socialist Labour Party - nothing more. Britain First, Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins are the right wing equivalents, except up until now they had nothing to do with the Tory Party. They were indeed just minority voices for the racists, xenophobes, generation identity and white supremacists. They've now joined your team. Didn't Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins etc all recently join UKIP because they wanted to 'get Brexit done'? I think the only reason they have allied themselves with the Tories is because UKIP have basically imploded due to infighting. Besides there is a world of difference between having random loonies joining your cause and having them set the agenda... https://peoplesmomentum.com/about/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/05/how-britains-far-left-sympathises-with-the-worst-of-our-prejudices https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/18/revealed-how-increasingly-powerful-momentum-is-transforming-labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I'm a hedge fund manager who has betted heavily on the uk economy tanking. Bring on Brexit. I hope you going to waste your own money and not your clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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