BriggRam Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I really don’t want this to be perceived as a Keogh hating or blaming Keogh type thread, I know he has been great this season, I know he is Derby through and through, the balls he shown to take them last penalties against Man U and Southampton just outstanding...but .....I’m thinking it’s time for him to go, year after year we seem to just mentally collapse, and I just feel that what what we need is a complete clear out, I know this summer lots of players contracts are up and they’ll be gone, but will Richards, he has been Derby captain for years he is the man on the pitch that should be leading, he should be giving the players the inspiration to raise the game when needed, our mentality seems to be cultural, he is part of that culture due to the time he has been at the club, I think the culture needs to change, like I say I’m no hating on him, he has been a great servant to the club, I just think he lacks that final mental strength, assertiveness, and leadership to get us over the line...... let the slating begin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I agree, it’s entirely the only bloke with any balls to try something, and one of our only players with any consistency and team play, fault that we can’t score in a brothel. Warra load of poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_chop Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 He would be instantly missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 It's a no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I don’t get what people are expecting him to do “Midfield, don’t be crap at football! Can you be as good at linking up play as Will please Craigy?” ”Harry, I know you’re being marked more tightly now, but thwack some goals in please.” “Four cap England international Tom Huddlestone, your passing is off tonight, stop being crap at passing.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, one_chop said: He would be instantly missed. So you enjoy the yearly collapse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: So you enjoy the yearly collapse ? I doubt whether the current slump is really anything to do with keogh other than he seems to enjoy the endless knobbing around at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: So you enjoy the yearly collapse ? No you’re right, it would be much more fun if we were bottom half in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: . let the slating begin ? No problem with having an opinion and I’m certainly not going to slate you,I understand what you’re saying. (sorry)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: I really don’t want this to be perceived as a Keogh hating or blaming Keogh type thread, I know he has been great this season, I know he is Derby through and through, the balls he shown to take them last penalties against Man U and Southampton just outstanding...but .....I’m thinking it’s time for him to go, year after year we seem to just mentally collapse, and I just feel that what what we need is a complete clear out, I know this summer lots of players contracts are up and they’ll be gone, but will Richards, he has been Derby captain for years he is the man on the pitch that should be leading, he should be giving the players the inspiration to raise the game when needed, our mentality seems to be cultural, he is part of that culture due to the time he has been at the club, I think the culture needs to change, like I say I’m no hating on him, he has been a great servant to the club, I just think he lacks that final mental strength, assertiveness, and leadership to get us over the line...... let the slating begin ? Was it really necessary to start this thread. So, it's not a Keogh blaming thread and yet your criticism of him as a captain and his mental strength etc. is quite blatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: So you enjoy the yearly collapse ? So you actually are blaming him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 This always crops up when we're doing a bit crap. A genuine question, what exactly do you believe he should be, or shouldn't be doing in games like Millwall, Ipswich etc. as the caption? And don't just answer with crap like 'he needs to show more leadership.' What can he as the captain do to influence a change in those types of games when things aren't going well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: This always crops up when we're doing a bit crap. A genuine question, what exactly do you believe he should be, or shouldn't be doing in games like Millwall, Ipswich etc. as the caption? And don't just answer with crap like 'he needs to show more leadership.' What can he as the captain do to influence a change in those types of games when things aren't going well? Tell Frank Lampard that playing 38 year-old Ashley Cole at wing-back is stupid? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I can’t remember a Keogh mistake this season barring Bristol City. He’s been our player of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: So you enjoy the yearly collapse ? Well that took no time at all to become the Richard blaming thread that you were at pains to explain that it wasn’t ,,,,,,, jeez there is no link to keough in the slightest in terms of our recent downturn in performance and results but hey ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Keogh to see out his career with us for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, Barnetbyram said: I really don’t want this to be perceived as a Keogh hating or blaming Keogh type thread, I know he has been great this season, I know he is Derby through and through, the balls he shown to take them last penalties against Man U and Southampton just outstanding...but .....I’m thinking it’s time for him to go, year after year we seem to just mentally collapse, and I just feel that what what we need is a complete clear out, I know this summer lots of players contracts are up and they’ll be gone, but will Richards, he has been Derby captain for years he is the man on the pitch that should be leading, he should be giving the players the inspiration to raise the game when needed, our mentality seems to be cultural, he is part of that culture due to the time he has been at the club, I think the culture needs to change, like I say I’m no hating on him, he has been a great servant to the club, I just think he lacks that final mental strength, assertiveness, and leadership to get us over the line...... let the slating begin ? It’s going to cost a lot of money to replace him, I’d say to get the equivalent talent you are looking at over £4 million! So, where’s the money coming from and which area of the squad are you going to neglect to replace Keogh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Archied said: Well that took no time at all to become the Richard blaming thread that you were at pains to explain that it wasn’t ,,,,,,, jeez there is no link to keough in the slightest in terms of our recent downturn in performance and results but hey ho The strange thing is that the “ yearly collapse” seems to revolve around one player. I wonder what the rest of the squad are up too.......playing a blinder no doubt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Barnetbyram said: So you enjoy the yearly collapse ? Keogh is always going to be the common denominator,personally I think that’s a lazy convenient link. Like I said,it’s a fair question to ask. Who could we get to replace him? We’re going to have to start thinking about it? Keogh just sent a signed shirt up for my son to do all his hospital visits with so I’m going to stick up for him a little bit more vigoursly. I think this is a good thread btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ramarena said: The strange thing is that the “ yearly collapse” seems to revolve around one player. I wonder what the rest of the squad are up too.......playing a blinder no doubt ? 14/15 - spine absolutely decimated by injuries. 15/16 - the system had an over reliance on moments of magic which dried up. 16/17 - after the gritty, backs to the wall winning run Mac 2 tried to change the system too quickly, believing De Sart and Nugent were enough to replicate Mac 1. 17/18 - thought we played without a system all season and relied on Vydra. We looked good when we switched to 5 at the back and had some identity. Even if this season turns into another, the reason would be an over reliance on screamers and clinical finishing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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