Doodle Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 This really is a strange thread and must be the only topic more divisive than the brexit debate. I personally like Keogh, think he’s very good at this level and wouldn’t dream of spending money to replace him without replacing 5/6 first team players first. However when on occasion he has a mare he should be open to criticism on a fans forum ( not at the match) just like the rest of them. I loathe the unwarranted abuse he gets for every goal we concede but he shouldn’t be above criticism like some seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick Ram Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 What people are saying is that every manager who has come through derby, which is Clough (who bought him), McLaren (twice), Clement, Pearson, Rowett and Lampard are all wrong. They have all selected him as first choice centre half. Now at least two of them had money to replace him but have not. That isn’t even including Wassall and Powell as caretaker who also selected him. Are these professionals all wrong. Plus he got selected for Ireland under O’Neill and Keane. I am fairly certain that if Roy Keane thinks you are poo then he would say. Is it Keogh or a lack of protection in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Doodle said: This really is a strange thread and must be the only topic more divisive than the brexit debate. I personally like Keogh, think he’s very good at this level and wouldn’t dream of spending money to replace him without replacing 5/6 first team players first. However when on occasion he has a mare he should be open to criticism on a fans forum ( not at the match) just like the rest of them. I loathe the unwarranted abuse he gets for every goal we concede but he shouldn’t be above criticism like some seem to think. This is so weak. Can you quote a single post that states 'Keogh is above criticism'? Keogh makes mistakes. Nobody is debating that. It's the level of blame apportioned to the man that has folk disagreeing. The alleged own goal yesterday is a case in point. The goal has been officially awarded to Redmond but some are still insistent that it was all down to Keogh. The fact is, no matter what he does for the side, no matter how well he plays, there are a good few on here who will always go out of their way to find reasons to roast the fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Warwick Ram said: What people are saying is that every manager who has come through derby, which is Clough (who bought him), McLaren (twice), Clement, Pearson, Rowett and Lampard are all wrong. They have all selected him as first choice centre half. Now at least two of them had money to replace him but have not. That isn’t even including Wassall and Powell as caretaker who also selected him. Are these professionals all wrong. Plus he got selected for Ireland under O’Neill and Keane. I am fairly certain that if Roy Keane thinks you are poo then he would say. Is it Keogh or a lack of protection in front of him. Haven’t a few managers dropped Keogh for his performances ? Based on the Republic of Ireland scenario which means you probably qualify if your dog’s been bred over there , i wouldn’t read to much into Keogh being picked , bearing in mind Pearce is his understoody as well at international level and he hasn’t kicked a competitive ball from god knows when. Regarding money to replace him the areas we’ve needed to improve have far out weighed the centre back positions , this is no longer the case , we have a loan centre back who will almost certainly go back at the end of the season , an ageing Davis who will be looking for his last contract if any, and a defender in Keogh who’s mistakes are becoming more and more regular. Can’t deny Keogh is a great servant to the club just like Bryson has been but now is the time to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 13 hours ago, superzak said: I dont think this team is a lot better than last season under Gary...just more entertaining To me that's the whole point. I don't put my pension toward being bored, I can watch paint dry for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 So under Rowett where we had at least 8 players constantly defending, Keogh and Carson had lots of clean sheets to thier name this season we defend with about 3-4 players and they are useless - it does have an impact all this attacking you know ! Keogh is still one of the best defenders in the league still and he will be replaced if and when we can afford to spend money and get somebody who is better - which should be in the premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Key clubber said: Haven’t a few managers dropped Keogh for his performances ? Based on the Republic of Ireland scenario which means you probably qualify if your dog’s been bred over there , i wouldn’t read to much into Keogh being picked , bearing in mind Pearce is his understoody as well at international level and he hasn’t kicked a competitive ball from god knows when. Regarding money to replace him the areas we’ve needed to improve have far out weighed the centre back positions , this is no longer the case , we have a loan centre back who will almost certainly go back at the end of the season , an ageing Davis who will be looking for his last contract if any, and a defender in Keogh who’s mistakes are becoming more and more regular. Can’t deny Keogh is a great servant to the club just like Bryson has been but now is the time to replace. So what you are saying is that the ROI can basically pick anybody from around the world to play for them, but they still choose Keogh! He must be crap then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, ossieram said: So what you are saying is that the ROI can basically pick anybody from around the world to play for them, but they still choose Keogh! He must be crap then. LOL - it's not the best thought out argument really, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inglorius Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Seems like Keogh is a Marmite kind of player to people on here. Also seems that the people with long memories haven't forgotten the playoff final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ossieram said: So what you are saying is that the ROI can basically pick anybody from around the world to play for them, but they still choose Keogh! He must be crap then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ossieram said: So what you are saying is that the ROI can basically pick anybody from around the world to play for them, but they still choose Keogh! He must be crap then. Or just the players asked to play for ROI want to play at a higher level internationally so decline their invite ,l’ll let you work that one out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Inglorius said: Seems like Keogh is a Marmite kind of player to people on here. Also seems that the people with long memories haven't forgotten the playoff final. Long but selective memories. Some can only seem to recall that mistake in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The constant sniping at Keogh is greatly down to the Wembley Final. He is being treated like a spouse who has cheating on their partner. In subsequent years, you're till together but every text, 20 minutes delay or works xmas do is a source of suspicion and damnation. Once again he has been our best defender this season, he was our best defender by a mile yesterday but still we those who feel cheated all over Radio Derby after the game. I really hope we can get promoted while he is at the club. It would mean so much to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Key clubber said: All the players asked to play for ROI want to play at a higher level internationally so decline their invite ,l’ll let you work that one out . So no one plays for ROI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, sage said: So no one plays for ROI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Is that really a question , we’re running out of ideas now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Key clubber said: Haven’t a few managers dropped Keogh for his performances ? Based on the Republic of Ireland scenario which means you probably qualify if your dog’s been bred over there 1 hour ago, ossieram said: So what you are saying is that the ROI can basically pick anybody from around the world to play for them, but they still choose Keogh! He must be crap then. 11 minutes ago, Key clubber said: Or just the players asked to play for ROI want to play at a higher level internationally so decline their invite ,l’ll let you work that one out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key clubber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, 86 points said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Key clubber said: Is that really a question , we’re running out of ideas now ? It is better to run out of ideas than never having an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Key clubber said: 18 minutes ago, 86 points said: When you quote someone you're meant to include your reply bud. In your case, it would scarcely make your posts more comprehensible but you might like to try it and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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