RamNut Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 https://trainingground.guru/articles/uncovering-the-work-of-footballs-tactical-analysts hopefully we don't lose this team to stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, RamNut said: https://trainingground.guru/articles/uncovering-the-work-of-footballs-tactical-analysts hopefully we don't lose this team to stoke I may be drunk, but can someone please explain what is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Very interesting article but it seems like football by numbers no room for flair(both from manager and players)I wonder what Cloughie would say or Sir Matt -Shanks etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 What a load of **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 If it was pure football by numbers you wouldn’t get player buy in. This is an analysis tool that helps managers by giving them real time data to back up their points when talking to the players. They all do it, Derby were one of the first with pro-zone, under Steve McC and Jim. This is an example of how big data (which is an important revolution the world is going through) can be applied to football. Has no bearing on style of play or no flair. Managers still implement the style of football they want to implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 hours ago, RamNut said: https://trainingground.guru/articles/uncovering-the-work-of-footballs-tactical-analysts hopefully we don't lose this team to stoke Hopefully we do lose the lot of them to Stoke.. It’s a simple game clouded by crap and these guys and sports scientists are leeches who feed off the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 "Gary, quick, get another ball on the pitch - Fulham won't let us play with theirs !" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Hopefully we do lose the lot of them to Stoke.. It’s a simple game clouded by crap and these guys and sports scientists are leeches who feed off the game. Burn the witches, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Interesting for me is the last bit...” have worked for 5 different coaches” none of them successful that’s why!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 So basically, they are interpreting data and making assumptions on what has happened and make recommendations... FFS how much does all that cost. What’s coding as welll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: So basically, they are interpreting data and making assumptions on what has happened and make recommendations... FFS how much does all that cost. What’s coding as welll? Analysts watch the game and “code” events into the software. The software aggregates and produces output. It’s just a form of evidence as to what’s happening on the pitch but it’s more comprehensive than a single individual at a single viewpoint. It provides great insight into how the game is being played out. It’s all part and parcel of the game. And as @BramcoteRam84 explains it’s all part of the big data revolution. Supermarkets can now tell when a woman is pregnant before she’s told anybody else simply through her buying behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: So basically, they are interpreting data and making assumptions on what has happened and make recommendations... FFS how much does all that cost. What’s coding as welll? Perhaps they might do something like watch loads of games of the oppo and notice that the gk likes to roll out the ball to left cb who will then pass to the left back. The left back is then good at hitting it down the left channel to a good target man. If the left cb is marked, the keeper rolls out to left full back, who then finds the target man. The team could setup different tactics here. Mark left cb and left full back. Mark left cb, but get another player to rush the full back as they know where pass is going. Mark left back but leave left cb free to recieve ball from keeper. During the game, an analyst pays particular attention to this to understand how the oppo are reacting to this situation and which approach seems to be having the best impact. They notice right cb seems slow on ball, so suggest that left full back is marked, then both cbs are quickly closed down after ball is rolled out. We do this, force a mistake from right cb which leads to a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
442 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Who needs software ? For most of the games since the new year - the space was in the oppositions half as we weren't there very often ! Seriously though, reading that article, why on earth weren't we set up 10 metres further forward because trying to absorb too deep was what cost us ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Ellafella said: Analysts watch the game and “code” events into the software. The software aggregates and produces output. It’s just a form of evidence as to what’s happening on the pitch but it’s more comprehensive than a single individual at a single viewpoint. It provides great insight into how the game is being played out. It’s all part and parcel of the game. And as @BramcoteRam84 explains it’s all part of the big data revolution. Supermarkets can now tell when a woman is pregnant before she’s told anybody else simply through her buying behaviour. Visit to Tesco Express to buy preggo test. Remove 60 B&H and 5 bottles of Gin from online weekly shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: So basically, they are interpreting data and making assumptions on what has happened and make recommendations... FFS how much does all that cost. What’s coding as welll? Come on grandad, get with it! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Visit to Tesco Express to buy preggo test. Remove 60 B&H and 5 bottles of Gin from online weekly shop. Purchasing a kit doesn’t mean somebody is pregnant of course. And Tesco doesn’t sell pregnancy testing kits ...so it’s not quite so straightforward but you get the gist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Data is not the same as information. It's up to those who have the data to make useful things out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 9 hours ago, RamNut said: https://trainingground.guru/articles/uncovering-the-work-of-footballs-tactical-analysts hopefully we don't lose this team to stoke Is it their work that explains why we defended so deep all season? If not they had no effect, if yes then get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Purchasing a kit doesn’t mean somebody is pregnant of course. And Tesco doesn’t sell pregnancy testing kits ...so it’s not quite so straightforward but you get the gist... Remove a weekly pack of condoms from regular shop, followed by removing alcohol and fags. Simples. Big brother knows all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Purchasing a kit doesn’t mean somebody is pregnant of course. And Tesco doesn’t sell pregnancy testing kits ...so it’s not quite so straightforward but you get the gist... Folic Acid....? Or maybe the man of the house does the shopping and a few months ago he stopped buying condoms. Now he starts buying 'gentleman's literature' again as the tap that suddenly cane on..is now firmly turned off...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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