Was Steve McClaren ultimately a failure at DCFC

[Curtains]

Thoughts 

[RiddingsRam]

I don't really think he was a failure no. But over rated bymany yes. Everybody goes on about his fantastic football , in my eyes we played 12 good games at the end of the 13/14 season. Then after that you could see glimpses but mainly just frustrating passing football in the final third struggling to make a break through. 

[Mostyn6]

No, he overachieved and was never allowed to build his own team.

[Ilsonram12]

Plan B was never there, so insistent on the 4-3-3 and Martin

Had a real chance to do something here and blew it, wasn’t given a chance the 2nd time round really albeit

[Curtains]

I thought he relied on the loan market way too much. 

[maxjam]

I think he was advised poorly over the Newcastle thing.

I think he barely got his feet under the table during his second stint.

During his first stint he never got us promoted, so ultimately a failure - yes. 

But (and its a big but) he provided us with the best entertainment we've had for a long time and almost any other day we would have beaten QPR. He attracted a lot of top players to the team and fostered a team spirit that I'd not seen in a long time before or since.

Would I turn the clock back to 2013? Yes I would.

[Rev]

Hard to tell, he's not had his 3rd spell yet.

[RoyMac5]

I think that some don't want to admit how good our football was and how much better we might have become.

[Anon]

His 51.61% win ratio achieved over his two spells is a better record than any other Derby manager ever to have taken charge of more than a dozen games. To sack him once was foolish, twice was brain meltingly retarded.

[Alph]

Where'd he pick us up from under Nigel? 

Where did he leave us?

Where did he pick us up from under Pearson?

Where did he leave us?

What's the record number of points for Derby in a season? What year?

What was the atmosphere like at games both home and away before McClaren and after McClaren?

Answer those and then tell me if why you think he could be a failure.

 

? cus we didn't get pwomoted ?

You didn't even know what the play offs smelled like before McClaren. 

[Curtains]

1 minute ago, Alpha said:

Where'd he pick us up from under Nigel? 

Where did he leave us?

Where did he pick us up from under Pearson?

Where did he leave us?

What's the record number of points for Derby in a season? What year?

What was the atmosphere like at games both home and away before McClaren and after McClaren?

Answer those and then tell me if why you think he could be a failure.

 

? cus we didn't get pwomoted ?

You didn't even know what the play offs smelled like before McClaren. 

It’s all about opinions .

I mean Eddie Howe had more success at Bournemouth I’d say. 

[Alph]

On 23/02/2018 at 10:09, David said:

 

1. Steve McClaren MKI - 54.26%
2. Gary Rowett 47.73%
3. Brian Clough 46.71%
4. Cecil Potter 45.26%
5. Billy Davies 44.93%
6. Steve McClaren MKII 44.83%
7. Dave Mackay 44.3%
8. George Jobey 43.4%
9. Roy McFarland 43.01%
10. Paul Clement 42.42%

[Alph]

6 minutes ago, curtains said:

It’s all about opinions .

I mean Eddie Howe had more success at Bournemouth I’d say. 

And I'd say Pep has had more success at Barcelona.

[Curtains]

Just now, Alpha said:

On 23/02/2018 at 10:09, David said:

 

1. Steve McClaren MKI - 54.26%
2. Gary Rowett 47.73%
3. Brian Clough 46.71%
4. Cecil Potter 45.26%
5. Billy Davies 44.93%
6. Steve McClaren MKII 44.83%
7. Dave Mackay 44.3%
8. George Jobey 43.4%
9. Roy McFarland 43.01%
10. Paul Clement 42.42%

It means nothing though .

 

[Cam the Ram]

1 minute ago, curtains said:

It’s all about opinions .

I mean Eddie Howe had more success at Bournemouth I’d say. 

And Pep Guardiola has had more success at City than Howe has had at Bournemouth. That doesn't mean Howe is a failure, does it?

[Curtains]

5 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said:

And Pep Guardiola has had more success at City than Howe has had at Bournemouth. That doesn't mean Howe is a failure, does it?

We are talking Premier League.   We have not got there for a long time. 

[Cam the Ram]

Just now, curtains said:

We are talking Premier League.   We have not got there for a long time. 

Nope, you're talking nonsense. You're basically saying that McClaren was a failure because someone else (Howe) did better elsewhere. If that's the case most managers in the world are failures because there's always someone doing better than them

[Turnstile]

YES a failure. Winners were.G jobey, S McMillan, B clough, D McKay, A cox, J smith. grudgingly B davies. Every other manager has failed

[kingsy1884]

Yes whilst its good to play pretty football the team lacked any sort of game control. The hope was just to score more. It was the untimate downfall of the whole system. 

The ridiculous 3.3 and 4.4 draws, lack of a true plan B for Martin and Thorne or 4-3-3 not to mention the lack of backbone vs QPR and Reading when it really mattered. 

You can play pretty all day long but its a results based business. Furthermore he was going to leave for Newcastle anyway and he made a poor choice.

So ultimately yes he was a failure. I dont think he is as bad a failure as the rest of the crew we have had i change since his first tenure though. 

[Anon]

3 minutes ago, swiftur said:

YES a failure. Winners were. S McMillan, B clough, D McKay, A cox, J smith. grudgingly B davies. Every other manager has failed

You forgot Jimmy Methven.