Rowett

[europia]

43 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

We won the game which was great but it was on the back of dreadful defending by Cardiff ( which we may have induced ) in fact all four goals were down to dreadful defending 

Fair point but when you listen to the 'expert' pundits analysis of goal scenarios, 9 times out of 10 it's down to a mistake. I would say this is even more prevalent in the championship, where, with the exception of Wolves and Fulham there aren't many teams scoring goals resulting from individual or collective skilful play.

[G STAR RAM]

2 hours ago, Pearson said:

Did he stumble across the team selection whilst we were on a good run taking us to second?

No not at all.

He certainly took long enough trying to remedy it though once the lack of legs began to cost us.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

1 hour ago, Sparkle said:

We won the game which was great but it was on the back of dreadful defending by Cardiff ( which we may have induced ) in fact all four goals were down to dreadful defending 

Arent pretty much all goals down to poor defending in one way or another.

[Rab a dab doo]

GR sinner to saint in 45 minutes.

What next?

[ilkleyram]

5 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said:

GR sinner to saint in 45 minutes.

What next?

God

[Rab a dab doo]

Could be but only if he parts the waves and sees us through to the promised land 

[cannable]

5 hours ago, Pearson said:

Did he stumble across the team selection whilst we were on a good run taking us to second?

Yeah, our xG was 13th place, Vydra had scored 11 goals from 13 shots, there wasn’t and has been no pattern of play all season up until Saturday

But I don’t understand the nuances of the game like you, do I Josep?

[Carnero]

7 hours ago, cannable said:

our xG was 13th place

Some of us prefer to use the more accurate "aG" rather than "xG".

Our aG was 2nd place funnily enough.

[jono]

12 hours ago, Sparkle said:

We won the game which was great but it was on the back of dreadful defending by Cardiff ( which we may have induced ) in fact all four goals were down to dreadful defending 

It's a reasonable point to make but sometimes dreadful defending can happen because errors are forced by dogged attacking play and gritty determination. Take Wisdom when he dispossessed  the defender .. Is that an error ? Or when Jerome turns the CB and takes the ball with positive intent. Was it an error or was the opponent just out played ? 

[ramblur]

13 hours ago, Sparkle said:

We won the game which was great but it was on the back of dreadful defending by Cardiff ( which we may have induced ) in fact all four goals were down to dreadful defending 

Ahh, all we need to do tmw is give the lads a rest, and to get @Boycie to fit induction coils right where the Villa defenders don't want them?

[RadioactiveWaste]

30 minutes ago, ramblur said:

Ahh, all we need to do tmw is give the lads a rest, and to get @Boycie to fit induction coils right where the Villa defenders don't want them?

I bet John Terry would be into that though...

[cannable]

3 hours ago, Carnero said:

Some of us prefer to use the more accurate "aG" rather than "xG".

Our aG was 2nd place funnily enough.

The league table measures results, not performances 

[RamuelLJackson]

1 hour ago, cannable said:

The league table measures results, not performances 

OK but in a smallish sample size results don't tell the whole story. That's why analysing the performance is important too - analytics sometimes tell the part of the story that the most basic statistics don't.

[Boycie]

6 hours ago, ramblur said:

Ahh, all we need to do tmw is give the lads a rest, and to get @Boycie to fit induction coils right where the Villa defenders don't want them?

Don’t get wound up. ?

[Ramchop]

4 hours ago, RamuelLJackson said:

OK but in a smallish sample size results don't tell the whole story. That's why analysing the performance is important too - analytics sometimes tell the part of the story that the most basic statistics don't.

 If you have a clinical finisher, who puts away 90% of his chances, and the average player puts away 70% of his chances in the same positions then the xG will be lower than the actual goals. xG doesn't account for better/worse players.

xG is the new possession stat, because you can't win a game without more than 50% possession

[RamuelLJackson]

xG is just the tip of the analytics iceberg. Just look at SABRmetrics in the US - the point is to develop metrics that tell us more than the results do alone, and in part that is because those metrics are more predictive than the straight results are. Yes xG isn't perfect, but it tells us some more stuff, and future metrics will tell us more and more accurate things.

[Comrade 86]

On 26/04/2018 at 20:20, Sparkle said:

We won the game which was great but it was on the back of dreadful defending by Cardiff ( which we may have induced ) in fact all four goals were down to dreadful defending 

You must be new here. We only win against bang average teams who make loads of unforced errors. We only won against Villa, Cardiff and Boro because they're bobbins.

On 26/04/2018 at 21:56, Rab a dab doo said:

GR sinner to saint in 45 minutes.

What next?

Canonization

 

[Rab a dab doo]

Do mean anoint him or fire him like an artillery shell.?

[MikeS]

So we finally won a game. He finally changed the team around. The second half performance was more like the level we expect from a Derby side. The manager may well bring us some success in time but I am not at all sure I will enjoy watching the games that much.