Day Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Nottingham Forest and Derby County are joining together to take a united stand against obscene, abusive and hate filled social media posts and singing ahead of the match between the two sides at the City Ground on Sunday 11th March, kick-off: 2:30pm. The two clubs are determined to clamp down on social media users who post comments of an offensive character and will be taking relevant action against those users. Individuals should also be aware that in many instances such posts will involve breaches of the criminal law. Full story: https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2018/03/joint-statement-ahead-of-east-midlands-derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I applaud this but it should be a thing all the time. No one should be able to get away with it regardless of the fact its online or they are hidden away in a crowd. In fairness I don't recall any offensive chanting in recent times, have forest fans ever chanted about the murders in derby? I don't know, and as far as i know the Doughty chant, although appalling was the one occasion. It does make me wonder what they can possibly do though when its something like the Doughty chant that wasn't just a few people. I suppose one way would be to accept you cannot punish hundred or thousands of people, but that an example will be made of "a number" of fans identified and ban them. I don't really read twitter so I don't know what gets said on there though, when I have read it it is full of nasty comments on almost any subject, some people lead really sad lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Yes agree with this, but need to distinguish between banter and abuse banter is fine abuse never fine or appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 You used to make bikes You used to soap You used to make fags And now you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: Yes agree with this, but need to distinguish between banter and abuse banter is fine abuse never fine or appropriate Abuse is fine too - just depends on the topic. Obviously some stuff is just in ooor taste and shows a distinct lack of class but abusing Flosrist fans, excluding the obvious topics, is good sport. I hope we don’t chant the nasty stuff and if they do, we’ll come out of it so much better by not retaliating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 minute ago, RaichCarter said: Abuse is fine too - just depends on the topic. Obviously some stuff is just in ooor taste and shows a distinct lack of class but abusing Flosrist fans, excluding the obvious topics, is good sport. I hope we don’t chant the nasty stuff and if they do, we’ll come out of it so much better by not retaliating I suppose it depends on your definition of abuse that is fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Come on, we all know the line. Chants about death and tragedy are not acceptable in any walk of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Oh and Florist fans have definitely chanted in poor taste about that dispicable **** from Victory Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The chanting is in poor taste and does nobody any credit. I agree it shouldn’t happen. Twitter and Facebook are easier to police and I’d be happy if the idiots were held to account. I don’t use Twitter much any more because of the abuse. I’m not a delicate flower and indulge in banter but some people have no concept of what is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 i thought law was supposed to be clear cut to be effective. Define offensive. Is it perhaps not so much what is said or written, but how it is perceived? Sorry, but i won't have any cops, Derby or Forest call me a criminal for expressing my views, not that i am planning any abusive posts, but it's the principle of the thing you know Am all for fans playing nicely and don't like any nastiness around football and support initiatives meant to tackle that problem, but there has to be a better way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Forest fans have chanted about Philpott every time since they were found guilty. The only other team's fans who have done that are Milwall. Says it all really Yeah there was some chanting from the Derby end about Doughty at the time, but as far as I'm aware that was just a one-off and no one around me was joining in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Better take the Kenny you are so funny thread down then boys plenty of abuse on there .[Thoroughly deserved I might add] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, StivePesley said: Forest fans have chanted about Philpott every time since they were found guilty. The only other team's fans who have done that are Milwall. Says it all really Yeah there was some chanting from the Derby end about Doughty at the time, but as far as I'm aware that was just a one-off and no one around me was joining in Ah yes. This is definitely all our fans fault and yours are completely innocent Good luck to the teams on this, but imagine it'll fly out of the window as soon as the game starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, RaichCarter said: Come on, we all know the line. Chants about death and tragedy are not acceptable in any walk of life. In that case I think what you refer to as abuse is probably just banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, StivePesley said: Forest fans have chanted about Philpott every time since they were found guilty. The only other team's fans who have done that are Milwall. Says it all really Yeah there was some chanting from the Derby end about Doughty at the time, but as far as I'm aware that was just a one-off and no one around me was joining in Just now, Red_Dawn said: Ah yes. This is definitely all our fans fault and yours are completely innocent Good luck to the teams on this, but imagine it'll fly out of the window as soon as the game starts I haven't heard the philpott chant but not saying it hasnt or doesnt happen, it must really for it to have been mentioned. The Doughty chant wasnt just a few people it was a lot of people and I was ashamed of those that did, in fairness those around me actually booed our own fans for doing it, but to my knowledge was a one off and Derby actually issued a public apology for it which might have made the fans realise what morons they were. Neither set is of fans is innocent or totally at fault, we both (and all clubs) have their own set of muppets and morons. We can say about the fans who wrecked our toilets but then look at the idiots who vandalised fawaz's car. I think chants about worst team in history, champions of europe you'll never sing that are fine, and we will chant about forest living in the past etc...that sort of stuff is fine and what banter should be about. I am actually quite surprised at the kick off time. Funny how every year we are told it has to be an early kick off to prevent drinking, and because Sky say jump we are kicking off at what is almost a normal kick off time, i would be amazed if some pissed up idiot doesnt run on the pitch from one or both sets of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 People are too sensitive these days. Signing about Nigel Doherty and Phillpott kids is wrong and has no place anywhere anyway. But changing the word retard to treetard is more than acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: But changing the word retard to treetard is more than acceptable. Would you say that if you had a child with learning difficulties who had been bullied by being called a retard, a mong, etc? There is no clear line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, David said: Nottingham Forest and Derby County are joining together to take a united stand against obscene, abusive and hate filled social media posts and singing ahead of the match between the two sides at the City Ground on Sunday 11th March, kick-off: 2:30pm. The two clubs are determined to clamp down on social media users who post comments of an offensive character and will be taking relevant action against those users. Individuals should also be aware that in many instances such posts will involve breaches of the criminal law. Full story: https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2018/03/joint-statement-ahead-of-east-midlands-derby I see there is a nice picture of a well know poster on here, on that link.. @B4ev6is One for you mate. I hope you were just singing Derby, Derby. Looks like you are lovin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raich Carter Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lambchop said: Would you say that if you had a child with learning difficulties who had been bullied by being called a retard, a mong, etc? There is no clear line. I think almost any sort of banter/abuse can relate to someone in a different way - fat, skinny, ginger, etc - doesn't make it any easier but it's not personal. And I think that's where the difference lies - the intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I can't help but feel DCFC fuelled it a bit yesterday with that stupid PR stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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