Rab a dab doo Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Depends what you call improvement. They may have been even worse at their previous club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 57 minutes ago, irobinson said: his pissin distribution hasnt!! Not seen him in the gents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickram Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 To be fair I think Olsson has improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Of the top of my head and excluding pre Mac 1 Christie, Baird, Wisdom (1st time), Ibe, Thorne (when available), Ince, struggling after that. To be honest, as was pointed out above, there's a fair few you wouldn't expect to improve but hope to get service out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Elsnik Vernam Babos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 It list would be longer if it was how many good players have gone backwards since they joined us .Look at Russell no world beater but he performed to a lot higher standard than he currently is who can forget his goal int he Forest 5-0 game , Martin gone backwards , Johnson gone backwards ,Butterfield gone bckwards ,Bryson picks up as soon as he leaves the list goes on .I am afraid the club needs to have a good long look at itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohMartWright Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Max Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 minute ago, King Kevin said: It list would be longer if it was how many good players have gone backwards since they joined us .Look at Russell no world beater but he performed to a lot higher standard than he currently is who can forget his goal int he Forest 5-0 game , Martin gone backwards , Johnson gone backwards ,Butterfield gone bckwards ,Bryson picks up as soon as he leaves the list goes on .I am afraid the club needs to have a good long look at itself Clubs don't improve players, but managers can - what they teach them, how they use them, how they train them. Therein lies much of our problem - we've had poor managers and secondarily we've brought in some poor, unmotivated players. This is why for all the hoopla on here now for how good mcclaren and Clement were - all from those wanting Rowetts head after a handful of games during which he's trying to cull the squad and add fire - they were very poor managers. Nigel Clough helped improve players, and Ince did improve under Mac2 but that was more to inces mindset to work harder and setting Ince free and letting him play. The thread just exposes all that's been wrong the past few seasons and the size of the squad has stopped the youth from playing and improving too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Maybe it is because we sign players who are doing well at their club and then ask them to play in a different position, role or system. Bryson is now playing in an advanced midfield role again at Cardiff and doing well. Who would have thought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, sage said: Maybe it is because we sign players who are doing well at their club and then ask them to play in a different position, role or system. Bryson is now playing in an advanced midfield role again at Cardiff and doing well. Who would have thought it. Baffles me how many managers we've had over the past few seasons that all play players out of their positions. Is Mel still picking the team I wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 George Thorne..... Well he hasn't been booed or abused on twatter to my knowledge, so ergo he must have improved purely on that reasoning alone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's a long list of mediocre players. I'm not convinced Ince improved with us. He was good before. When I've seen Hudersfield this season he's played centrally which always seemed the right position for him so he looks better now he's left. I do have the feeling Carson is playing better now than when at Wigan and he says he's keeping better than any other time in his career. Other than that, none of them. What does that say about our coaching and facilitiies? This was a point @Ambitiousraised ages ago (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The only genuine one I can think of is Alex Pearce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 25/09/2017 at 13:59, King Kevin said: Martin gone backwards , Johnson gone backwards ,Butterfield gone bckwards ,Bryson picks up as soon as he leaves the list goes on .I am afraid the club needs to have a good long look at itself So Chris Martin who was struggling at league 2 Swindon yet went out to score 60 goals in his first 3 seasons went backwards? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I had a long ponder over this, but I'm not sure whether at this time of the season it's an appropriate question. If we look at this season so far, then of course you would say no one really has, but if we put that into context (we are playing a new system, persistent managerial changes over recent seasons, only 9 games into this season, players possibly not knowing their position at club as managers is transitioning squad) then it's barely a surprise. So the thread is a bit self fulfilling and another chance to moan. Not saying it's not worthwhile but maybe it might be better to look at this later in the season when hopefully we are a little more settled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: It's a long list of mediocre players. I'm not convinced Ince improved with us. He was good before. When I've seen Hudersfield this season he's played centrally which always seemed the right position for him so he looks better now he's left. Every time I've seen match of the day he seems to be shown in the lineup on the wing - I think he's just drifting inside a lot as he did quite a bit with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 hours ago, WystonRam said: The only genuine one I can think of is Alex Pearce. Nah, he's gone backwards. He captained Reading out of this league and into the Premier League at the age of 24. He's nowhere near that standard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 2 hours ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: So Chris Martin who was struggling at league 2 Swindon yet went out to score 60 goals in his first 3 seasons went backwards? ? He's gone backwards now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, King Kevin said: He's gone backwards now . You said gone backwards since they joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Reverse this, who's gone downhill since we signed 'em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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