Dimmu Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I don't share his approach to football. I actually hate it. But surely he has to be given time to rebuild his own team, then we can judge is Rowett up to a job or not. Next summer with all the ending contracts and their replacements should be the culmination point of his career at Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, Dimmu said: I don't share his approach to football. I actually hate it. But surely he has to be given time to rebuild his own team, then we can judge is Rowett up to a job or not. Next summer with all the ending contracts and their replacements should be the culmination point of his career at Derby. Did you hate the style of play when we beat Hull 5-0? Just curious, because in my view many of the values that Rowett is trying to drill into this team came off that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Maybe he is, maybe be he isn't but surely we have to give him a decent chance to prove it. Where has our previous knee jerk reactions got us precisely nowhere. Stability is the key to building prolonged sustainable success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dimmu said: I don't share his approach to football. I actually hate it. But surely he has to be given time to rebuild his own team, then we can judge is Rowett up to a job or not. Next summer with all the ending contracts and their replacements should be the culmination point of his career at Derby. I absolutely agree 100% with this. Either Mel has faith in his manager, so allows him time to develop his team in his style, or he's the wrong manager. Too many changes of manager in too short a time implies we aren't getting the right man. Ultimately out failings in recent years has to come back to the manager recruitment. Why has finding the right man been so difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: Did you hate the style of play when we beat Hull 5-0? Just curious, because in my view many of the values that Rowett is trying to drill into this team came off that night. Fundamentally my vision of how football should be played is totally different. Which one is better or worse is a different story though. Leicester won the league with an approach closer to Rowett's than mine but so did Juventus, which would closer to mine than Rowett's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I absolutely agree 100% with this. Either Mel has faith in his manager, so allows him time to develop his team in his style, or he's the wrong manager. Too many changes of manager in too short a time implies we aren't getting the right man. Ultimately out failings in recent years has to come back to the manager recruitment. Why has finding the right man been so difficult? We could do with a proper recruitment team. No matter are we talking about managers or players I'm agreeing with you totally. Manager recruitment and lack of clear vision where our team is heading have been our Achilles heel in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I absolutely agree 100% with this. Either Mel has faith in his manager, so allows him time to develop his team in his style, or he's the wrong manager. Too many changes of manager in too short a time implies we aren't getting the right man. Ultimately out failings in recent years has to come back to the manager recruitment. Why has finding the right man been so difficult? Hit and miss. Some people fit right in others don't. The best example I can give is the great Brian Clough. He fitted in well at Derby but not Leeds. It didn't mean he was useless when he went to Leeds he just didn't suit the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think his job is on line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramchop Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Personally, I like to see quick breaks out of defence in football. I can't stand the idea of our midfield and defence taking 2 minutes to get the ball into an attacking position, by which time the opposition have dug in and left little space to work in. Not long ball, hoof it up to the big man football, but a style where the ball is always moving forwards. Catching a team out of position. Direct passing to pacy wingers. I could fall asleep watching some "stylish" teams. Barcelona at home are a snoozefest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, hkrammm said: And the DCFC players in the squad ATM (after the sale of flair players like Hughes and Ince) are at most Iceland's level rather than Germany's. That's the same Iceland who knocked mighty England out of the most recent European Championships? So all's not lost then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/18/2017 at 00:10, Warren Hobhead said: It's still early days, hard to truly judge, but I haven't seen evidence on the pitch with any regularity that suggests he's some kind of Brian Clough. 1966/1967 League Div 2 17th (Manager T Ward) 1967/1968 League Div 2 18th (Manager B Clough) 1968/1969 League Div 2 1st ( Manager B Clough) As you say, too early to judge. I remember me dad and me uncles talking after they got back from a match, and one of them saying: "They should never have got rid of Ward". The reply was summat like: "Well this new bloke anna pulled up any trees yet. but you've gorra gi' 'im a chance, 'E's only bin 'ere five minutes, we'll just avta wait an' see 'ow 'e gets on. Seems to me that we're gonna have to do the same and " See 'ow 'e gets on". Judging by some of the comments in this thread, there's plenty on here ( not you Warren Hobhead ) that would have sacked Brian Clough sometime in the winter of '67/'68. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Grimbeard said: "Well this new bloke anna pulled up any trees yet. but you've gorra gi' 'im a chance, 'E's only bin 'ere five minutes, we'll just avta wait an' see 'ow 'e gets on. Seems to me that we're gonna have to do the same and " See 'ow 'e gets on". It's not the same game though. I bet Mel gives him until Christmas to get us looking like contenders, then if we're languishing there'd still be time and the Jan window for the new man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: It's not the same game though. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 44 minutes ago, Grimbeard said: Yes it is. Oh no its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadFly Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 No, he's not up to it. Guys a hoofball merchant. Results aside, I VERY much dislike his style of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeyboy Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Rowett Owett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Still no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mikeyboy said: Rowett Owett. Beacause that sort of knee jerk reaction had done is well thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeyboy Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, kingsy1884 said: Beacause that sort of knee jerk reaction had done is well thus far. Not a knee jerk from me. I watched a lot of the turgid stuff he served up at Burton Albion. Sorry but he can only play one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool As Custard Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cool As Custard said: Wish everyone would calm down. The team is being rebuilt & it's going to take time. It's not a game of Football Manager & it won't be until after 2 more transfer windows that GR can be judged. We aren't going to get promoted this season & we won't get relegated. It'll be exactly the same end result as the last 3 years although finally someone will have made a real fist of the rebuilding that has been long overdue. Results like today are an inevitable part of the rebuilding process. I wish everyone calling for GR's head would get things into perspective & lose this sense of over entitlement that seems to have become more widespread since the playoff final. Another change in manager is not the answer & would more than likely send us plunging towards the relegaton zone. We need to back the manager, trust his judgement & support the team. This post is probably better in this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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