GboroRam Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, David said: And he would leave Cardiff right now for us? I think he's reasonably venal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mistaram said: What so he can buy another Sammon ! Really? Is it enough to pull out a bad buy ? All managers make some bad buys ,,ALL managers, the real criteria to judge them is do they make enough good buys to build a blend and a team ,,, if starting points are taken into consideration then clough has been our best manager in a long time so much so that Steve Mac benefitted massively from clough work and was honest enough to give big credit to clough for that ,,, look at what MAC achieved when he left and was given money to build Newcastle team, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Right now, if I had to organize our recent managers starting post clough, if probably go 1. McLaren 2. Wassall 3. Clement 4. Rowett 5. Pearson Must do better. I'm sick of the "needs more time to reshape the squad" excuses. McClaren and certainly Wassall didn't get that luxury. Other managers could do significantly more with these players right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, wixman1884 said: Right now, if I had to organize our recent managers starting post clough, if probably go 1. McLaren 2. Wassall 3. Clement 4. Rowett 5. Pearson Must do better. I'm sick of the "needs more time to reshape the squad" excuses. McClaren and certainly Wassall didn't get that luxury. Other managers could do significantly more with these players right now. The point everyone is missing is the amount of time we have wasted over these last two seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 43 minutes ago, Derbydave96 said: If you look at the starting 11 today, outfield players only, Baird - 35, Keogh - 31, Davies - 32, Olsson - 29, Huddlestone - 30, Johnson - 30, Nugent - 32. Wow! Hungry young players indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, wixman1884 said: Right now, if I had to organize our recent managers starting post clough, if probably go 1. McLaren 2. Wassall 3. Clement 4. Rowett 5. Pearson Must do better. I'm sick of the "needs more time to reshape the squad" excuses. McClaren and certainly Wassall didn't get that luxury. Other managers could do significantly more with these players right now. Exactly my order too.....good effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, King Kevin said: You will have to take my word for it thought we should have had him a few years back.I made a post a few days ago and I can appreciate what you have said about giving time etc. but why Rowett with no track record can't see the reasoning behind that one .I do want him to succeed by the way. Why Clement? Had no track record either. Could look at a number of appointments across the leagues which have been a success with no track record. Nobody gets a track record without being given that chance first. I always think of appointing managers is like trying to pick a date on take me out, they all want you because of the free holiday and will say owt to get you. Certainly seemed the case with Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Rowett out, Mel out, t1ts out, the man from mcturks that slumps on the chips out, if in doubt get them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I don't really blame Rowett, anyone would have taken the job. Should never had sacked McLaren 1 (first sacking was never about the interest from Newcastle, it was that Steve wanted things his way and Chairman Mel didn't like it) and 2 (a bad run of games with no window to sort the team out despite playing well). Should never have sacked Clement. Should never have appointed Pearson or Rowett. Problem is with the Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 I’d have more respect for Mel if he admitted he got it wrong and brought in a new guy rather than argue with fans like he did tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyram1983 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, EastHertsRam said: If there are a lot of contracts up, how will it give Rowett funds to sign players ? Those with contracts expired will leave for nothing, we will get no money for them. We've got money for transfers. Its wage bill I was talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyram1983 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, ramma said: I’d have more respect for Mel if he admitted he got it wrong and brought in a new guy rather than argue with fans like he did tonight. Not heard about arguing with fans. Can you enlighten me? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelovebelow Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Highgate said: Worryingly, a lot of Birmingham fans seem to think that recruitment was the weakest part of Rowett's managerial skill set. Many even went as far to suggest that it the reason he was sacked, as the new owners didn't trust him to spend their investment wisely. Well, even more worryingly, most of the Birmingham fans I've spoken to hated his style of football. So his football is naff, his recruitment is naff... At least his interviews are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Derbyram1983 said: Not heard about arguing with fans. Can you enlighten me? Please. End of today’s game apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, ramma said: I’d have more respect for Mel if he admitted he got it wrong and brought in a new guy rather than argue with fans like he did tonight. Really. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Gypsy Ram said: Really. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Gypsy Ram said: Really. What happened? Some guy was shouting at him to sack Gary, few choice words were exchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, David said: 1 minute ago, ramma said: Some guy was shouting at him to sack Gary, few choice words were exchanged. If only he was that protective of Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Turgid football. I raised my fears at the time that we hired the wrong man, and I maintain them. Rowett fits the clough mould, is great in a side lower down with a small budget, not sure he can handle bigger egos very well. I'm in two minds of what I think should be done about Rowett, I think he'd eventually sort us out, but the question is of how far we'll drop until then, and if the squad will stick with him. We should have hired a manager who liked to play the same football as the squad. So in some respects, maybe firing him would do some good. And yet, we're in transition from a McClaren style team, to a Rowett one, so I don't think our squad is good enough anyway. I'd stick with him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just now, Gypsy Ram said: If only he was that protective of Steve. Or Clement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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