Derbyram1983 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 A loan is good. We still get a loan fee and his wages paid. If he's successful clubs will be after him. Or we can have him back. Win win I would say. He's not getting game time so makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 If i was chris i would be so pisssssd off with Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, RamNut said: If i was chris i would be so pisssssd off with Derby. Isn't 'pissssed off with Derby' your default position at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, eddie said: Isn't 'pissssed off with Derby' your default position at the moment? No but thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 What happened to the £8m move to Stoke ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: What happened to the £8m move to Stoke ???????? Waiting for Crouch to move to Chelsea first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Huge signing for Sunderland, that. Martin scores goals & creates chances. I'd say providing he's played in the right role within the team, he will drag them into another Championship season. Good luck to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/chris-martin.1413510/page-7 Interesting thread,how lucky are we! I can understand him moving on but I’ve loved watching him play☹️. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just say No to them all Super Chrissy Martin.......... Coz February will be pretty grim without you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 hours ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: Sunderland have agreed a loan deal with Derby for Chris Martin and hope to convince the player to make the move to the Stadium of Light, HITC Sport understands.http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/18/por-sunderland-agree-deal-with-derby-for-martin/?utm_medium=share service&utm_campaign=social media&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=HITCdeadlineday The report says nothing about whether or not there's a loan fee. If true I hope it's really good financially for Derby, because there's still a lot of time left in this window for desperate clubs to enter a bidding war for a proven quality striker. Does he want to join a club destined for League One? Chris should keep his options open for a few days and see who else comes in. Edit: A video for @Inverurie Ram: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: The report says nothing about whether or not there's a loan fee. If true I hope it's really good financially for Derby, because there's still a lot of time left in this window for desperate clubs to enter a bidding war for a proven quality striker. Does he want to join a club destined for League One? Chris should keep his options open for a few days and see who else comes in. Sunderland want a striker in for Saturday! They’re not going to league one. It’s one of the biggest clubs, and if he leads them up the table they’ll no doubt want to keep him. But all I’ve read is that we’ve agreed with them to talk and that Martin is deciding : it’s not a done deal yet right ? I would think that he’d prefer to go to somwhere like Stoke (if Lambert is serious) just because of the proximity to Derby. Also depends on his ambition and playing time guarantees (which I guess will be significant at Sunderland given their striker crisis). My sense is he will prob be a black cat by Friday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Pretty annoyed we aren’t getting money for him really, but I guess at least it’s not to a current promotion rival. Even if they’re only paying half of his wages from now until the end of the season it saves us the best part of £400,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ninos said: Sunderland want a striker in for Saturday! They’re not going to league one. It’s one of the biggest clubs, and if he leads them up the table they’ll no doubt want to keep him. But all I’ve read is that we’ve agreed with them to talk and that Martin is deciding : it’s not a done deal yet right ? I would think that he’d prefer to go to somwhere like Stoke (if Lambert is serious) just because of the proximity to Derby. Also depends on his ambition and playing time guarantees (which I guess will be significant at Sunderland given their striker crisis). My sense is he will prob be a black cat by Friday afternoon. I absolutely agree Sunderland are desperate. But if Martin waits to see what else is out there it's not as if Sunderland have better options. That said, I would presume those conversations are going on with other clubs behin the scenes. If nothing else looks likely I imagine you're right and he'll be donning red and white stripes come Saturday afternoon. Personally if there's the slightest chance I'd rather he waits for Crouch to go to Chelsea (I never thought I'd be typing that phrase) and Lambert to pounce for his old striker, with Martin ending up donning a different set of red and white stripes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: I absolutely agree Sunderland are desperate. But if Martin waits to see what else is out there it's not as if Sunderland have better options. That said, I would presume those conversations are going on with other clubs behin the scenes. If nothing else looks likely I imagine you're right and he'll be donning red and white stripes come Saturday afternoon. Personally if there's the slightest chance I'd rather he waits for Crouch to go to Chelsea (I never thought I'd be typing that phrase) and Lambert to pounce for his old striker, with Martin ending up donning a different set of red and white stripes! Huh? Have I slipped into a bizarre parallel universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Mistaram said: Rowett said it on RD he said he spoken to both players and both expressed a wish to play in the Prem I've never seen the Ince interview why didn't he say sorry boss I'm not going anywhere I'm going to help us get promoted You know what...it could even be the real world...where it's a bit of both!! Rowett hears that the agent has been talking to other clubs (who's maybe heard of Rowett's supposed prejudice against flair players...or is just trying to drum up interest to use in wage negotiations at Derby ). Rowett has already been told he needs to sell if he wants to buy...and Ince is one of a handful of players who would command a fee he could do anything with..and potentially may not be ideal for the system he fancies. He gets the player in.....and asks him if a big offer came in and Derby didn't stand in his way would he go? Ince says...'errr well I'd have to think about it of course'. Rowett comes out the meeting thinking the rumours are true and he showed no real desire to stay. Ince thinks the club wants rid and actually why shouldnt he go then. Both feel it was the other who initiated the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chester40 said: You know what...it could even be the real world...where it's a bit of both!! Rowett hears that the agent has been talking to other clubs (who's maybe heard of Rowett's supposed prejudice against flair players...or is just trying to drum up interest to use in wage negotiations at Derby ). Rowett has already been told he needs to sell if he wants to buy...and Ince is one of a handful of players who would command a fee he could do anything with..and potentially may not be ideal for the system he fancies. He gets the player in.....and asks him if a big offer came in and Derby didn't stand in his way would he go? Ince says...'errr well I'd have to think about it of course'. Rowett comes out the meeting thinking the rumours are true and he showed no real desire to stay. Ince thinks the club wants rid and actually why shouldnt he go then. Both feel it was the other who initiated the situation. Not what Ince said..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 hours ago, cannable said: Even if they’re only paying half of his wages from now until the end of the season it saves us the best part of £400,000 There’s been some wild speculation about his wages, but surely he’s not on that much a week..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 do people want to believe and ex player or our current manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Six months time it will be that Martin instigated this move and he was in GRs plans but someone offered more cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Not what Ince said..... It could be though .... agents are constantly talking to clubs about players i. e. would Ince be interested in a move potentially...? Err not at the moment... He wouldn't be aware of any specific interest and he plans to stay...but any player is aware things change. Rowett knows Ince was one of a very few he could sell...and suspects there is interest. Asks the player....who says (as Steve Mc did) 'I have no interest at this time I'm concentrating on my current job'.. .which as we have all seen can get twisted to mean anything!! Same with Chris...he may want to stay but not if he's not getting a game...if we can get a decent fee he can go...but if we can't he can stay. It's not always black n white (!) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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