hintonsboots Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 There seems to be an obsession with systems and players not fitting into them. Mac is a very experienced coach in England , Holland and Germany and has managed the national team. Surely he can come up with a system to get the best out of the very expensively assembled squad at his disposal. These players are all professionals not a bunch of lads who meet up once a week for a game of 5 a side, and should be able to give 100% in every game in what ever position they are asked to play. I really like Steve, he comes across as a great , decent bloke and I will always remember him getting the players to wait and applaud QPR when they got the trophy at Wembley [bast££&s] which can't of been easy. Unfortunately I don't think the return of the messiah CM next season will be enough and I would like a new manager in for pre season. Hopefully David Wagner if Huddersfield don't go up. I want to see my team play with pride and passion every week, in the style of the crisp eaters last night.... not much to ask for surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, valleyram said: 8 points from 30 with a squad most championship teams would die for oh dear Most would die for? Are you serious? We have such an unbalanced squad with a host of highly-paid, unmotivated average players. Id argue most would run the other way if you offered them our squad of players with a yearly wage bill of about 25-30 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Not really. So if we loose the next four (which includes forest) you will be comfortable with this bloke rebuilding the team in the summer? It's not only the results that are poor. It's the performances which are the major worry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Of course McClaren doesn't know his best 11, the squad isn't his! They were bottom 3 when Pearson left, he galvanised them and went 10 unbeaten with a consistent team, but let's be honest we rode our luck and weren't playing great. the players stopped performing and he had no options to change, the players left out didn't grab their chance. How is that McClaren? We've had 5 managers in 12 months! Full credit to him for not coming out and lambasting the players because it must be difficult. He is the right man, he'll sort it out in the summer and I'm confident we'll move forward again next season. If not, then would be the right time to change manager and I and other fans backing Mac will eat their words - and I disagree that is only 50/50, more like 80/20 and the 20 live on social media and don't go to matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I like schteve and i hope the penny drops, but why do we have to be losing with 20 minutes to go before we change the system? Yes, the players are pretty average, but he needs to be a bit more imaginative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: This isn't 2014 or 2015 mate. Mate apart from Newcastle we will have the highest wage bill in the league I don't mind that if the team is successful but come on give me a break it's a disgrace where we are in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, valleyram said: Mate apart from Newcastle we will have the highest wage bill in the league I don't mind that if the team is successful but come on give me a break it's a disgrace where we are in this league Wage bill =/= good squad Two years ago, we had a much better squad and much lower wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, toddy said: He saved then from the drop that's where they were heading when he took over. In 18 months he will have built a side that will go up this season. Mac needs time and the club needs stability. They finished in the playoffs the season before... Then Hughton saves them from the drop after a terrible start... Hummm... Sounds familiar doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: So if we loose the next four....... Its GAME OVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Chris Mills said: Last thing we need is a new manager. We need some stability. Let Mac build a squad through the summer and see how it's going at Christmas. This is the position everyone expected us to finish when we hired him after our start so right now he is performing on par with what we wanted. Why would anyone want the walking disaster area that is Steve McClaren organising a summer rebuilding programme? Get rid now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, valleyram said: Does he ? Please enlighten me , its at the stage now I even believe will Hughes has chucked it with the mediocrity around him , Mel must no sleep at night with the wages he must be paying and no even getting a sniff of the play offs , it's joke And how is that McClaren's fault? There are too many average players in the squad, it wasn't going to be completely turned around in January. There is no point getting rid of Mac at the moment or in the summer. We have a squad that is so unbalanced it has fell over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Without going over the top, Im irritated at our recent performance. Put out a half bakes team v fester to concentrate on three winnable home matches....win none of them. Lose the next two away matches to teams who "really need a win"..... We've lacked consistency and we're more streaky than a Ib of bacon! We do need to change the squad up a bit, again, I'd go for selective evolution rather than "sell all the players!" Then "buy all the players" but a summer of slimming the squad and bringing in some young, good and on the up players to play our way is what we need. A five minute chat with Nigel clout about who he'd love to sign if had more than a pot to urinate in for a transfer budget would f better than our recent recruitment drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, valleyram said: How u can defend this idiot is beyond belief , I honestly don't know what he's good at I've mentioned it before and I'll say it again. I didn't see you complaining when we were winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, RamNut said: I like schteve and i hope the penny drops, but why do we have to be losing with 20 minutes to go before we change the system? Yes, the players are pretty average, but he needs to be a bit more imaginative Shame we didn't pay average transfer fees and wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fraser_23 said: I've mentioned it before and I'll say it again. I didn't see you complaining when we were winning! I've never rated him and never will , I hope he can turn it around but I think the chances of that are slim to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 All teams go on bad runs. It leads to underperforming players. Confidence drops. Pressure builds. Our club happens to be one with double the supporter expectations, partly because we've signed loads of expensive players and therefore fans expect more, we've also been close to the top of the championship, but missed out, for the past few seasons. Maclaren got this team to pull out of the mess Pearson left the club in from October. Just a few weeks ago, we still produced a composed performance and could well have beaten Leicester, and demolished Ipswich. Maclaren has inherited an unbalanced but talented squad with lots of overpaid players low on confidence and too players in certain positions and others missing or injured in crucial positions. On the other side of the coin. Is he capable of turning round a club which goes on a dire run of form, Under His Management. He also mismanaged Newcastle so badly last season that they were doomed to the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, valleyram said: I've never rated him and never will , I hope he can turn it around but I think the chances of that are slim to say the least Haven't you got Avon to sell or summat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 RD said they had never seen McClaren so angry after a game . Pacing up and down in the tunnel on his own for a good 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne1306 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, SWRam said: I would just like to know how many times McClaren has the word 'Sacked' on his CV? Not sure, but he does have League Championship winner on it. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, Wayne1306 said: Not sure, but he does have League Championship winner on it. ? No that was Alex Ferguson who he left us for . He left Jim Smith to go and assist at Man U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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