Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Folk saying they are ITK on this forum? Never happens...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazaDunn Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: Folk saying they are ITK on this forum? Never happens...... Haha, I'm not 100% ITK and will not say I know something if I don't, but I've not been wrong on the ones I did mention so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, DazaDunn said: Looking back on it I should have, but we all thought he was our saviour at the time :/ Yeah,we all thought that was a good idea at the time,I'm ashamed to say I was one of them.....Live and learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 One thing not quite clear to me. If Fulham have an option to buy and chose to excercise it then what happens. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, jono said: One thing not quite clear to me. If Fulham have an option to buy and chose to excercise it then what happens. ? From what I have read it still depends on Martin agreeing to it..He can't be forced to sign it if he doesn't want to. Conversely if he did decide to then Fulham could then exercise it. At the moment though he has made his intentions to returning to derby clear.....Hopefully it will remain that way until he has the option to actually return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazaDunn Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, jono said: One thing not quite clear to me. If Fulham have an option to buy and chose to excercise it then what happens. ? Simple, Fulham take up the option, they go into a negotiation period with Chris, who has the right to (and will) disagree on personal terms. Fulham's hopes are dead and then Chrissy comes home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, jono said: One thing not quite clear to me. If Fulham have an option to buy and chose to excercise it then what happens. ? Then it's still down to Chris Martin whether he wants to go. Fulham can put an offer in of the agreed price and we'd have to accept it. CM would have no obligations to sign anything with Fulham though, we are not in the North Korean football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, jono said: One thing not quite clear to me. If Fulham have an option to buy and chose to excercise it then what happens. ? They try and convince Martin to join them via the use of lots of cash and promises. If it surpasses the new contract he's just signed with us he may accept and join them, but it's a very big if. They'll need to make it such a good offer that it convinces both him and his family to move from their home in Derby where they're clearly settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Fulham have talked a lot about leaving Craven Cottage over the years. I hear they are now looking at Land options in Derbyshire and building a new Stadium. I can see Martin staying with them if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just to clarify the Fulham bosses view on Martin as it stands.... The Fulham boss said: “My job is to do the best for Fulham and today I believed the best option in this position was to use Chris Martin. “His situation is fantastic. He signed a new contract, which is great news for him and his family. I don’t know, it’s probably his highest contract. “This situation doesn’t change anything, it helps us. He will stay and he showed commitment and loyalty to this club. “He’s going to be in better condition and available to help Derby at the beginning of August. “If they want to use him, I have to send him back at the end of the season. “Or if Derby finish in the top six and we don’t finish in the top six, he is going to be ready in the second week of May.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazaDunn Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Just to clarify the Fulham bosses view on Martin as it stands.... The Fulham boss said: “My job is to do the best for Fulham and today I believed the best option in this position was to use Chris Martin. “His situation is fantastic. He signed a new contract, which is great news for him and his family. I don’t know, it’s probably his highest contract. “This situation doesn’t change anything, it helps us. He will stay and he showed commitment and loyalty to this club. “He’s going to be in better condition and available to help Derby at the beginning of August. “If they want to use him, I have to send him back at the end of the season. “Or if Derby finish in the top six and we don’t finish in the top six, he is going to be ready in the second week of May.” What do people make of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Just to clarify the Fulham bosses view on Martin as it stands.... The Fulham boss said: “My job is to do the best for Fulham and today I believed the best option in this position was to use Chris Martin. “His situation is fantastic. He signed a new contract, which is great news for him and his family. I don’t know, it’s probably his highest contract. “This situation doesn’t change anything, it helps us. He will stay and he showed commitment and loyalty to this club. “He’s going to be in better condition and available to help Derby at the beginning of August. “If they want to use him, I have to send him back at the end of the season. “Or if Derby finish in the top six and we don’t finish in the top six, he is going to be ready in the second week of May.” You missed this vital bit out of what he said "Jokanovic confirmed that, while Fulham retain an option to sign Martin on a permanent deal in the summer, he could also feature for Derby if they reach the play-offs and the Whites miss out" http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/martin-play-derby-county-play-offs-boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, DazaDunn said: What do people make of this? He is staying for the rest of the season but not permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 He also said this which some have conveniently overlooked "Jokanovic confirmed that, while Fulham retain an option to sign Martin on a permanent deal in the summer, he could also feature for Derby if they reach the play-offs and the Whites miss out." http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/martin-play-derby-county-play-offs-boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, curtains said: You missed this vital bit out of what he said "Jokanovic confirmed that, while Fulham retain an option to sign Martin on a permanent deal in the summer, he could also feature for Derby if they reach the play-offs and the Whites miss out" http://www.westlondonsport.com/fulham/martin-play-derby-county-play-offs-boss Sorry curtains,didn't mean to miss it out,I was cutting and pasting from my phone and I've got sausage fingers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, sage said: He is staying for the rest of the season but not permanently. Yep,looks like he has conceded that Martin will be returning to derby but is confident they have him this season....He also believes they have him for the play offs if they reach them (but what if we both do I wonder?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazaDunn Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Yep,looks like he has conceded that Martin will be returning to derby but is confident they have him this season....He also believes they have him for the play offs if they reach them (but what if we both do I wonder?) Then it gets interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Sorry curtains,didn't mean to miss it out,I was cutting and pasting from my phone and I've got sausage fingers.. It's not a problem mate. I am disappointed he will not return until next season now . He will in all probability come back to Derby next season unless Fulham offer him a better deal than Derby because they appear to have that option according to the Fulham boss. If Fulham get promoted I see it as a no brainer for Martin to stay at Fulham and play in the Prem but conversely it could work the other way. It is up in the air still as far as I am concerned and a lot of things may happen in the following months ahead. Martin could get a serious injury which of course I hope doesn't happen but it's not inconceivable. I think Fulham are getting the better deal at this moment in time which is a complete turnaround from how I viewed it yesterday after the contract was signed at Derby and they announced it The ball is also in Chris Martins court and I suppose that's modern day football . Not sure how I feel about the whole thing now to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoollyJumper Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think this is all quite simple. All the options available are dependent on all 3 parties agreeing. Therefore with regards to the loan, Fulham want him to stay, while CM and Derby want him back. He stays as not all agree. Regarding the permanent move to Fulham. He is contracted to Derby. Even if Fulham want him permanently, it appears that neither Derby or CM want that. So he returns to Derby at the end of his loan. I'm quite simple and like simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 @curtains I don't get what's made you press the panic button on the Martin situation mate. Yesterday you were happy after hearing he'd signed a new deal and today you're all down in the dumps saying this works better for Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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