PodgeyRam Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: So, in conclusion, 75% of voters agree with selling Hendrick. I'd be interested in which of those 75% ALSO accuse Pearson of ripping the squad apart! Which means they think that Derby is a one-man (Chris Martin) team. Also let go was Buxton who was imperative to our quick, accurate pssing out from the back. Got rid of Martin who was imperative to the way we played and didn't by a like for like replacement. You would be surprised how many teams in this league are only losing two plyers away from free fall. Grant, who despite making a few howlers, had the ability to release the ball quickly allowing us to counter at speed - Carson can't do that. Bought in Anya, who even though it's early days doesn't seem to be much of an improvement on Russell, but cost £2.5 million more. Vydra, would've been a great player, if he had a Martin type player to play off. Then tried to shoehorn the rest of our players into a system that didn't suit them. And some people wonder why Pearson is scoffed at. I would say however though, that even though he wasn't impertive to the 433 system, Hendrick was one of our players who is most suited to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Would Hendrick have made a critical difference to Pearson's side? Probably not, in my view, in which means that at £10m, he wanted top flight, he'd more than done his service to us as an academy graduate etc etc, it's an understandable move. If it was a clear cut case that Plan Ostritch Uber Alles was going to be the winning combination with Jeff, that it's a more debatable scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 And, FWIW, Pearson didn't rip the squad up, if he had done, he might have succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Yes. The time was right, the money was right, he wanted away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 3 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: So, in conclusion, 75% of voters agree with selling Hendrick. I'd be interested in which of those 75% ALSO accuse Pearson of ripping the squad apart! Which means they think that Derby is a one-man (Chris Martin) team. Oh meow. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, mwram1973 said: Keogh But 75 per cent of people on here think he's the worst defender; got a mistake in him every game and flaps around - diving around like a headless chicken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, Gypsy Ram said: But 75 per cent of people on here think he's the worst defender; got a mistake in him every game and flaps around - diving around like a headless chicken! then 75% don't know what they are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 23 minutes ago, Gypsy Ram said: But 75 per cent of people on here think he's the worst defender; got a mistake in him every game and flaps around - diving around like a headless chicken! That's being polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: then 75% don't know what they are talking about 8 minutes ago, TroyDyer said: That's being polite. People voted for the Nazis. People like Coldplay (me included). If there's one thing we should all know by now, it's that you can't trust people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Correct decision. Talented player who had much in his locker. Except the locker remained closed far too much. Hughes, Thorne, Butterfield, Johnson and Bryson all better options. Don't blame him for leaving as he was in and out last season and he probably got a pay rise as well as a year in the Prem. And you can't blame us for selling for that price. I do not believe he'd have made even a slight difference this season. Granted, each of our midfielders are yet to pull up trees this season but thats down to the managerial upheaval in my opinion. Mac will get them going. I know that's not instantaneous enough for some fans, but patience is a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 8 hours ago, Saul Pimpson said: Selling a player for double his real value is always the right decision. Maybe that's what Watford thought about Vydra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Don't know about good for Derby or Burnley - but certainly a good move for the player (more money and in the shop window if he does well). Moving to Burnley after being put out in the cold at United hasn't done Michael Keane any harm and not many Rams fans rated (or rate) him. Could be Chelsea-bound if rumours are correct, Burnley getting £25 million for a player who cost them £2 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Good question but a tough one to answer. This forum seemed pretty divided with some feeling thee was some massive latent potential there, if unfulfilled, whilst others saw very little in Jeff, either in terms of ability or performance. In truth I wanted us to keep him and I think Pearson did too, but £10.5m was an offer we couldn't really refuse , especially when we (in theory, at least) have a surplus of useful centre mids. Equally, if Vydra clicks and gets us 15 to 20 goals this season or next, then it'll look like a Sam Rush masterstroke since the sale effectively funded his transfer. So.....At £4.5m, a definite no-no, but at the end sale price I'd say it was good business. It'd be interesting to know what the Burnley fans think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: And, FWIW, Pearson didn't rip the squad up, if he had done, he might have succeeded. He sort of left us in limbo. Too few transfers for his way to succeed but enough transfers to break the old system. Shithouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 20 minutes ago, Grantona said: Don't know about good for Derby or Burnley - but certainly a good move for the player (more money and in the shop window if he does well). Moving to Burnley after being put out in the cold at United hasn't done Michael Keane any harm and not many Rams fans rated (or rate) him. Could be Chelsea-bound if rumours are correct, Burnley getting £25 million for a player who cost them £2 million. To be fair he looked like a better version of Keogh but lost his way after the Leicester drubbing. Burnley's polished him off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 7 hours ago, Andrew James said: Really !! He never lost the ball and most passes were to our own players and was and has improved enourmously and played well under McLaren. *McClaren I'm going to start pulling people up, this has gone on too long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 7 hours ago, i-Ram said: Didn't vote but if Jeff took as much care with his passing as he did with his hair he could be a good footballer. True, but you could say that about quite a lot of footballers these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantona Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 If Burnley stay up even one more season after this, Hendrick and Defour will have paid off their combined £20 million fee. Go down in May, they only get £75 million....stay up and it's a minimum £100 million in 2017/18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 it was a good price but hendrick was good for us and probably would have shone again under mac..not to be tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Isn't he one of our "failures". That's amazing money for him if he's "just not good enough" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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