Alph Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Both in the squad. Vydra still needs time to grow into the role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just support the team we have and not questions whether a past player would be better. Its water under the Thames bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclej Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Vydra without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Both for me Vydra makes the runs and Martin would be able to find him I really do think they would be good together whatever the formation used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Martin without a shred of doubt. No disrespect to Vydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Wonder how effective Vydra would be on the left or right of say, Martin, or another number 9/ target man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarRam Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Both.. It is okay to have options. If we are playing 4-3-3 then we have no real reason to sell Martin. Doubt Fulham would take up the option on him unless he has an amazing run. One of the weakness in the formation over the last few years has been the lack of decent cover in key positions and that is what SM has to address. I would like players to be tapping on the shoulder of the manager if they are not playing and someone in their position is off form. Together they could be quite special and for all my criticsm of NP he did bring in a couple of top players. We now need to shift out those who don't play in our formation and look out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 NP early on was saying that teams who do best in this division tend to play with 2 up front. I think he tried to build from this belief but messed up because our relatively small skilful midfield is best playing in a 3 in the middle. I'd like personally to see if mcClaren can evolve his previous 433, which as we all know places heavy reliance on one central striker to be able to accommodate 2 genuine forwards - which could be Martin and vydra if the former is recoverable from Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 hours ago, DCFC4LIFE said: Who do you think? 2 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: i want the third option of both This.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 We had our pants down again with Vydra. Not worth anywhere near the amount we paid. I see him as a Darren Bent mark II, but with better workrate and fresher legs due to age. Hopefully I'm proved wrong, but I just don't think he suits McClaren's style and I think like Bent his presence and inabiity to hold the ball up will put us under increased pressure, especially on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, Bris Vegas said: Hopefully I'm proved wrong, You're always wrong anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: You're always wrong anyway. I'm more right than wrong on football matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, HantsRam said: NP early on was saying that teams who do best in this division tend to play with 2 up front. I think he tried to build from this belief but messed up because our relatively small skilful midfield is best playing in a 3 in the middle. I'd like personally to see if mcClaren can evolve his previous 433, which as we all know places heavy reliance on one central striker to be able to accommodate 2 genuine forwards - which could be Martin and vydra if the former is recoverable from Fulham. At the minute I'd say Vydra because he's the only option and as others have said the team need to understand his game and look for his runs, Martin would clearly suit our style BUT the last sentence above would be my wish too, if Martin is "recoverable" from Fulham? I'd love to see Vydra play off Martin like he did Deeney could even mean Ince roaming free either wing behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, Bris Vegas said: I'm more right than wrong on football matters Yeah like Congratulations to Wassall or Pearson to Boro earlier on this year OKAYYYYYY if you say so Lololololol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Yeah like Congratulations to Wassall or Pearson to Boro earlier on this year OKAYYYYYY if you say so Lololololol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Vydra ! I think he's going to be a quality player for us ! Movements good , deceptively strong , can head the ball , good finisher and a general pain in the arse for defenders . Sort of reminds me of a poor man's Luis Suarez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: We had our pants down again with Vydra. Not worth anywhere near the amount we paid. I see him as a Darren Bent mark II, but with better workrate and fresher legs due to age. Hopefully I'm proved wrong, but I just don't think he suits McClaren's style and I think like Bent his presence and inabiity to hold the ball up will put us under increased pressure, especially on the road. Yes we are paying a lot for him and I do believe vydra to be a very good player but he needs the physical presence near him and hopfully one with a football brain which we do still own but is at Fulham currently, together we could become a very dangerous side and time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Martin FFS. He's our 20 goal a season striker. It's a no-frikkin' brainer. Vydra couldn't even keep himself onside yesterday for a tap-in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Vydra is better than Martin. So for me, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Martin FFS. He's our 20 goal a season striker. It's a no-frikkin' brainer. Vydra couldn't even keep himself onside yesterday for a tap-in goal. Apart from the fact that he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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