Rample Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Just contemplating 3 at the back. Do you think we have the personnel or is it something we'd have to go out and buy a sweeper-esque player for? We have a few ball playing midfielders we could move back but it would probably be a waste of their talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 3-5-2? Fast system of playing defence to attack, favoured a few years ago by some teams. With 3 at the back, Keogh, Shacks and the third CB or sweeper would need to be a pacey player. Two up front, yes we have the players up top. Personally, I do like this system we would possibly need a quality CB to team up with Keogh and Shacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Forsyth left sided cb in a 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Forsyth left sided cb in a 3? I would rather see Fossie in at left wing back [part of the 5 in a 3-5-2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, toddy said: I would rather see Fossie in at left wing back [part of the 5 in a 3-5-2] Yeah I agree, but with forsyth there could have Olsen left wing back. Starting to warm to the idea of 352 actually. Our wide attackers all seem better playing central and our best wide men are the fullbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Do any teams play this formation right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Didn't the U21s use 3 at the back last night? I've often wondered if Thorne could play as a sweeper. He seems to have all the attributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, Gypsy Ram said: Do any teams play this formation right now? Italy did in the Euros, Juventus play it ! I imagine Chelsea will . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBustler1884 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Carson Keogh shackell forsyth Christie olsson Bryson Thorne hughes Martin weimann Looks good to me, obviously lots of options for change in midfield though, and where does it leave Johnny and Ince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I can't see past Darren Bent in a front two. Deadly at this level if used right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 When we played it in the mid 90's early 00's didn't we play with one in behind the front two? Biaino, Kinkladze esq? That could suit Ince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 We have the players to do it. Carson Keogh shackell forsyth Christie olsson Bryson Thorne hughes ...Hendrick/Butterfield/Johnson Martin Ince/Russell It would also be simple to revert back to 4-3-3 with one sub change in Olsson or Forsyth. Even do it without a substitution. It may just be the formation we are looking for. We need to be able to attack at pace. We need to make the pitch as big as possible. We need to suppress counter attacks. We need to offer Martin support. We need to easily shift our formation instead of having to rely on a double sub at the 65 minute mark. It would also allow Thorne to play further up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 25 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: When we played it in the mid 90's early 00's didn't we play with one in behind the front two? Biaino, Kinkladze esq? That could suit Ince. Yep it started with Simmo or Willems behind the front two, with Carsley and Van Der Laan anchoring the midfield. It's a flexible system and a good alternative to the 4-3-3 with the players we have. It's a better fit for us than say 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Bent, Weimann & Blackman are also suited to this and any other formation that has 2 up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritty Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Is Rawson quick? 3rd centre half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottrillRAM Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Front 3 being Bent and Weimann with Ince behind and then Martin and Russell with Bryson behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Wales played it at the Euro's to great effect. Looking at it, it does accommodate the players we currently have, but it is a formation which requires a lot learning, especially for the 3 centre halves and wing backs. Do we have the time for that? Remember us trying at at home to Chesterfield in the cup last year at the ipro. Raul's debut if I'm correct? A lot of confused faces that first half. Could certainly be an option though don't get me wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 minute ago, dajstrawb said: Wales played it at the Euro's to great effect. Looking at it, it does accommodate the players we currently have, but it is a formation which requires a lot learning, especially for the 3 centre halves and wing backs. Do we have the time for that? Remember us trying at at home to Chesterfield in the cup last year at the ipro. Raul's debut if I'm correct? A lot of confused faces that first half. Could certainly be an option though don't get me wrong! A couple of days vs a full pre season might help that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 1 hour ago, The 1884 Group said: Carson Keogh shackell forsyth Christie olsson Bryson Thorne hughes Martin weimann Looks good to me, obviously lots of options for change in midfield though, and where does it leave Johnny and Ince? I think Russell could *possibly* play a wing back, he's got enough defensive work rate and gets forward enough to do so, just a question of his defensive qualities, but plenty of wingers play wing back, Ashley Young, elmohamody. Robbie Brady to name a few ince could probably play in the front two, or as one of the midfielders, just moved p to play behind the front two. also would Keogh not be the sweeper? He's mobile, aggressive enough and can pass a ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Wait...are us Derby fans agreeing on something?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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