Comrade 86 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 10 hours ago, eddie said: Like someone already has pointed out, what makes you right and every other manager who has been at Derby for the last 5 years wrong? If 'fixing' the 'Keogh problem' was a priority, which you seem to think it is, why has nobody else spotted something which you seem to think is so obvious? Perhaps he's a lot better than you give him credit for being. Shut up Eddie - there's no room for your irrefutable logic in this 'debate'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I would argue that Keogh is the very least of our problems - I'd literally look at every other position in the team/squad before Keogh's. Hughes' appalling goal/assist return is more disconcerting than Keogh so called 'mistakes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, DerbyRevolution said: Keogh might always have one in him but did Mel make the biggest one of all? I'm talking the potential free season ticket if we went up. Not only did his error keep us down it cost a lot of people £500, is that why he gets a raw deal. Are people still angry about it? The atmosphere has not once got close to that of the Brighton play off game ultimately ever since that error. Don't you mean his, Forsyth and Buxtons' error? The Keogh bashers conveniently forget the part played by the other 2 culprits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 17 hours ago, DerbyRevolution said: Keogh might always have one in him but did Mel make the biggest one of all? I'm talking the potential free season ticket if we went up. Not only did his error keep us down it cost a lot of people £500, is that why he gets a raw deal. Are people still angry about it? The atmosphere has not once got close to that of the Brighton play off game ultimately ever since that error. Firstly, it was 50% of your renewal price back if we went up, so unless your st is a grand it wasn't £500. Secondly it applied in the 1st renewal period, which was over well before Mel Morris even invested a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 53 minutes ago, reveldevil said: Firstly, it was 50% of your renewal price back if we went up, so unless your st is a grand it wasn't £500. Secondly it applied in the 1st renewal period, which was over well before Mel Morris even invested a penny. So has Keogh actually saved me £250? Don't tell my wife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: So has Keogh actually saved me £250? Don't tell my wife! Win and lose as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, reveldevil said: Lose and draw as a team. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 22:13, Ambitious said: I would argue that Keogh is the very least of our problems - I'd literally look at every other position in the team/squad before Keogh's. Hughes' appalling goal/assist return is more disconcerting than Keogh so called 'mistakes'. There is nothing so called about them. They are mistakes and he makes plenty. On a Sunday morning you would get a gob full off a fat labourer for his error on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 29 minutes ago, TroyDyer said: On a Sunday morning you would get a gob full off a fat labourer for his error on Tuesday. Probably preferable to some of the words of encouragment he gets from some of our 'supporters' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 15 hours ago, reveldevil said: Win and lose as a team. That's an Arthur Cox quote - alongside "Pure journalistic speculation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 6 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Probably preferable to some of the words of encouragment he gets from some of our 'supporters' Keogh could run on the pitch and shoot a puppy in the head, and certain areas of the SS would still chant "Keogh Keogh Keogh"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Just now, TroyDyer said: Keogh could run on the pitch and shoot a puppy in the head, and certain areas of the SS would still chant "Keogh Keogh Keogh"... Only if he kisses the badge as well and does that funny pretend header thingy just before shooting the puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Just now, Angry Ram said: Only if he kisses the badge as well and does that funny pretend header thingy just before shooting the puppy. Then blames the ref/team mates/Twitter for the fact the puppy died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 3 hours ago, TroyDyer said: Keogh could run on the pitch and shoot a puppy in the head, and certain areas of the SS would still chant "Keogh Keogh Keogh"... And likewise we could go a whole season without conceding a goal and some would still find something to blame him for, whilst heaping praising Shackell. I see Keogh is in the ROI squad again despite all of these mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 3 hours ago, TroyDyer said: Keogh could run on the pitch and shoot a puppy in the head, and certain areas of the SS would still chant "Keogh Keogh Keogh"... Was the puppy evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, cannable said: Was the puppy evil? 25 minutes ago, cannable said: Was the puppy evil? No little Christie was just out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The first goal on Tuesday was Keogh's fault, no doubt about it. There's been others as well over the years but I would argue he's more than made up for it with great last ditch blocks and tackles when everyone else has given up. He wears his heart on his sleeve and cares about his club and always gives 100%. He puts a shift in every time. I would take someone like Keogh all day over a player like Shackell who, in my opinion, has occasionally bottled a challenge rather than lay his body down for the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I always find it curious that our success over the last few seasons is attributed in some circles to the attacking players like Martin (hence the furore over his move) and midfielder's but conveniently our pretty decent defensive record is not attributed Enough to Keogh. Factor in him having to partner people like Shotton and I'm more than happy with his contribution for the Rams. how are his mistakes any worse than the chances missed against Bristol City for example? good player, good captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 17 hours ago, TroyDyer said: There is nothing so called about them. They are mistakes and he makes plenty. On a Sunday morning you would get a gob full off a fat labourer for his error on Tuesday. Still, in comparison to every single one of our players - Keogh is the least of the problems. No player in our squad isn't without fault, and i'd argue every single one of them worse than Keogh's odd mistake now and again. The reason we've conceded less than a goal a game for the past 54 league games is mainly down to Keogh - he's been by far and away our best defender during that time. He's pivotal to our, well, what used to be our, passing games. Shackell and Pearce, whilst would probably be more commanding in the air, would spent 70% of their passes looking for Vydra/Bent/Wilson's head from 60 yards. There is a dictionary long list of what is currently wrong with this football club. I think Keogh's once in every two/three month mistake comes around the same position of Radio Derby's lack of influence with Nigel Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 6 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: The first goal on Tuesday was Keogh's fault, no doubt about it. There's been others as well over the years but I would argue he's more than made up for it with great last ditch blocks and tackles when everyone else has given up. He wears his heart on his sleeve and cares about his club and always gives 100%. He puts a shift in every time. I would take someone like Keogh all day over a player like Shackell who, in my opinion, has occasionally bottled a challenge rather than lay his body down for the cause. I'd say second too. But not blaming him, my opinion is still the same (actually made it even more verified). He is good enough to get us promoted, but if it happened then as a manager I'd go shopping. Looks like Mel can keep his money for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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