Stive Pesley Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35919247 So leaving the EU would remove the employment rights of all EU nationals to work in the UK without a work visa Current rules say that non-EU players have to have played in 75% of their countries internationals to qualify for a work visa As it stands - the remnants of Nigel's "no foreigners" policy and our pretty poor (non-existent?) foreign scouting network leave us in good shape should this happen From the first team squad we'd lose Marcus Olsson, Andi Weimann and Ivan Calero I think. Keogh, Christie and Hendrick would qualify as international regulars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 8 minutes ago, StivePesley said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35919247 So leaving the EU would remove the employment rights of all EU nationals to work in the UK without a work visa Current rules say that non-EU players have to have played in 75% of their countries internationals to qualify for a work visa As it stands - the remnants of Nigel's "no foreigners" policy and our pretty poor (non-existent?) foreign scouting network leave us in good shape should this happen From the first team squad we'd lose Marcus Olsson, Andi Weimann and Ivan Calero I think. Keogh, Christie and Hendrick would qualify as international regulars You say non-EU players have to have played 75%... but isn't Sweden, Austria and Spain in the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 If a player has been in the UK for 5+ years they qualify, I think weimann and olsson would be fine under that? Camara and albentosa may struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'd dare say the Premier League and FA would push for a rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBrows Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 The term "Brexit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm sure the BBC will push more of this stuff in the next few weeks. Whatever it takes to frighten people into staying aboard the sinking ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't see Rupert Murdoch allowing it to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 39 minutes ago, Srg said: You say non-EU players have to have played 75%... but isn't Sweden, Austria and Spain in the EU? Correct but this is based on the Brexit scenario of us being outside of the EU. So players from Sweden, Austria etc would in theory be treated the same as Argentinians or Africans for instance. This "Brexit scenario" is based on the presumption of absolutely 0 working-labour deals being struck with any EU countries and also presumes the Home Office wouldn't change their entry requirements. Both of which are unlikely. Suggestions of "Scaremongering" have been over used by "outters" for every reason given to remain in the EU. However in this particular case, I agree it is scaremongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I think a lot of people are supporting exit as they favour less foreigners in the country. However that probably doesn't stretch to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Yeah sorry - I didn;'t want to turn this into another "Brexit Brollocks" thread, I mean - even if this happened it would be two years before we actually "brexited" so who knows how our squad would look by then anyway - and as others have said, they would no doubt try and sort it all out before then. I was more thinking about the implications around the number of EU based players currently in the UK divisions - who aren't actually that good but are potentially supressing home-grown talent. We're in pretty good shape and that shows our commitment to our academy etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 38 minutes ago, TroyDyer said: I'm sure the BBC will push more of this stuff in the next few weeks. Whatever it takes to frighten people into staying aboard the sinking ship. Thats all the EU referendum is, scaremongering about how bad the other side is without putting forward any of there won arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm sure there would be some leeway for footballers as it would be a bit stupid seeing all these footballers who are on big wages and were bought for a lot of money getting deported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, StivePesley said: Yeah sorry - I didn;'t want to turn this into another "Brexit Brollocks" thread, I mean - even if this happened it would be two years before we actually "brexited" so who knows how our squad would look by then anyway - and as others have said, they would no doubt try and sort it all out before then. I was more thinking about the implications around the number of EU based players currently in the UK divisions - who aren't actually that good but are potentially supressing home-grown talent. We're in pretty good shape and that shows our commitment to our academy etc Its a worthwhile discussion..... Not sure about the cause and effect of all this I must say. Hardly any non-UK foreigners in the League in the 70's and the English national side was still outplayed by Italy, Germany (W), Holland etc...etc... So having the field relatively clear for all the home-grown talent merely seemed to confirm there wasn't that much around. Of course this is all fatally simplistic and ignores all the relative advances in youth training, academies etc that have taken place in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 One of the things I'll look back on once 2016 has gone, with great anger is the word Brexit... What funking retard thought that was a good idea??? Tossers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 24 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I think a lot of people are supporting exit as they favour less foreigners in the country. However that probably doesn't stretch to football. Like any normal person I bloody hate foreigners, except the ones I have met who all have seemed very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Reducing the number of foreign footballers in British football would be a good thing in my opinion and definitely wouldn't make me change my mind over they way I would vote in the referendum. When we played Germany last weekend, Lothar Matthaus commented on the number of Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea players in the England team and said that we need to reduce the amount of foreign players in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, ossieram said: Reducing the number of foreign footballers in British football would be a good thing in my opinion and definitely wouldn't make me change my mind over they way I would vote in the referendum. When we played Germany last weekend, Lothar Matthaus commented on the number of Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea players in the England team and said that we need to reduce the amount of foreign players in the league. Isn't his logic flawed when all of our players play in England, but not all of Germany's play in Germany... and we won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Just now, Srg said: Isn't his logic flawed when all of our players play in England, but not all of Germany's play in Germany... and we won? Not really. German players are given a chance to prove themselves in Germany and then the top clubs sign them and give money to the German teams that bring them through. English teams don't give English players the same sort of chance and as such they just remain here with the smaller clubs rather than improve and move on to better things. And I'll wait until the Euro's are over before claiming to be a better team than Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 In response to someone saying Keogh and Christie would qualify through international appearances, do bear in mind they're as English as the next man. Just because they've Irish grandparents isn't grounds to consider deporting them. Plus there've always been separate UK/Irish living/working agreements that are nothing to do with the EU. As someone else has said, the likes of most players have residency through living in the UK a long time. Where there could be an impact is with the U21s. How the likes of Elsnick, Koblenz, Morsh and Calero would be treated I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: In response to someone saying Keogh and Christie would qualify through international appearances, do bear in mind they're as English as the next man. Just because they've Irish grandparents isn't grounds to consider deporting them. Begorah! Don't talk shoite! Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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