Posh Ram Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Still trying to work out how this happened considering we appeared to have good depth at the start of the season. Russell - best of a bad bunch, works hard, lacks the quality Ince - quite clearly a brilliant footballer at times but his brain lets him down Camara - who knows, but probably rubbish considering he can't get in over the incumbent pile of crap Blackman - looks sort of lazy and disinterested, needs to play up front in a 4-4-2 Weimann - seriously bad, he's Conor Sammon but attractive, foreign and quick. Probably couldn't score in a brothel Johnson - oh my god. Horrifically bad. Horrendous waste of money. Anyone think we can pull off an Alf Ramsey-style "wingless wonders"? Because we have nobody to stick there. Maybe we'll have to start playing guys like Calero and Santos (are they even at the club???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Jamie Ward would look world class in our team at the minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 We've made little or no progress over the last two seasons. Recruitment has been poor with the odd exception. Whoever made the decisions over new players got it wrong. We're paying for that now, literally etc...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Ward would be our best winger if he was still here. If we'd kept Ward and Dawkins, and just signed Ince, we'd be in a much better position than we are now. Two direct players in Ward and Russell and two intricate ones like Dawkins and Ince. Good balance. Obviously there may have been difficult circumstances around Dawkins but a player of his type. Instead we have a mish mash of average players on big money that have been signed with no plan in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, YouRams said: Jamie Ward would look world class in our team at the minute Not if he got picked to play in the middle, which he probably would given selections all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Russell is not the best of a bad bunch. He runs and running apparently means "passion" What does he do? What contribution comes with the running? His first touch is poor, his balance is poor, he regularly Bamford passes (under hits the most simple passes by thinking about the next move rather than the pass, his crossing is smashed to the CB on the nearest post, he doesn't score. Ince is the best of a bad bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 His name is Camara, the guy who has champions league experience and left a team 3rd in the french league at the time but we insists on playing rubbish like russell and johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I feel confident in saying that all of those named would be top Championship players when playing in a confident, attacking team. We need a manager who's got experience of getting out of this league and will play an attacking style of football. Once we appoint one I don't think it will be too long before those players you've mentioned start to improve and play more freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think the main problem with that list is that there is only actually one winger on there, and he hasn't even been given any kind of a chance to show what he is like. Come the summer we need to actually sign wingers if want to keep playing this 4 3 3 formation not central players out wide. I know a lot of people didn't like Dawkins, but at the moment some of the people we play out wide make me wish Dawkins and Ward for that fact, were still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 19 minutes ago, Posh Ram said: Ince - quite clearly a brilliant footballer at times but his brain lets him down Then, quite clearly, he is a long, long way from being a brilliant footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 But we do have quality whingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ramos said: I think the main problem with that list is that there is only actually one winger on there, and he hasn't even been given any kind of a chance to show what he is like. Come the summer we need to actually sign wingers if want to keep playing this 4 3 3 formation not central players out wide. I know a lot of people didn't like Dawkins, but at the moment some of the people we play out wide make me wish Dawkins and Ward for that fact, were still here. Dawkins was class. The key to concentrated possession in the final third. Allowing the more aggressive players to do what they do. You could rely on him and Hughes to get the pressure on and find the best man in the best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Is Camara any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Oh with the best ball as well. Not a hospital ball you have to wait for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Ince is the best winger in the league if his ability isn't coached away by clueless managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 28 minutes ago, Posh Ram said: Still trying to work out how this happened considering we appeared to have good depth at the start of the season. Russell - best of a bad bunch, works hard, lacks the quality Ince - quite clearly a brilliant footballer at times but his brain lets him down Camara - who knows, but probably rubbish considering he can't get in over the incumbent pile of crap Blackman - looks sort of lazy and disinterested, needs to play up front in a 4-4-2 Weimann - seriously bad, he's Conor Sammon but attractive, foreign and quick. Probably couldn't score in a brothel Johnson - oh my god. Horrifically bad. Horrendous waste of money. Anyone think we can pull off an Alf Ramsey-style "wingless wonders"? Because we have nobody to stick there. Maybe we'll have to start playing guys like Calero and Santos (are they even at the club???) I agree completely. I've been banging on about this for a few months now. The decision to pay off Ward's contract was stupid at the time and looks more insane week by week as his replacements continue to falter. 15 million quids worth brought in to replace Ward and Dawkins and what has it got us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I thought this was going to be to the tune of "Yes we have no bananas" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Ward was relased not had his contract paid up, an option was not taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: Ward was relased not had his contract paid up, an option was not taken Fair point, still an abysmal decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 41 minutes ago, Alpha said: Russell is not the best of a bad bunch. He runs and running apparently means "passion" What does he do? What contribution comes with the running? His first touch is poor, his balance is poor, he regularly Bamford passes (under hits the most simple passes by thinking about the next move rather than the pass, his crossing is smashed to the CB on the nearest post, he doesn't score. Ince is the best of a bad bunch. He drives forward which gains us position. He often wins free kicks and penalties. He pops up with the occasional goal and assist. He tracks back very well and protects the full back, allowing said player to be more adventurous. He fights for 50/50s and is OK in the air for a smaller player. He also appear popular amongst the players and is unlikely to be one of those who upset the dressing room atmosphere. Russell is very far from perfect, but he certainly is the best we've got at present. Russell is far more effective than Ince. Ince actively runs away from any headers. He refuses to even contemplate making a challenge. His tracking back is appalling, which exposes the full back and ultimately makes us unbalanced. He does not kick the ball with his right foot which makes him so predictable. He has terrible vision and never spots a teammate in space. His one asset is a curling shot from the right hand corner of the box, which just about makes him of professional standard. Without that, he'd be a poor selection for Borrowash Victoria. Although it's hard to be certain from the outside, he also appears to have a poor attitude and be unpopular with the other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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