McRamFan Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Nigel Clough is a safe pair of hands that will improve a club without risking the finances. Which is great if you want to wait 20 years or so to reach the prem, or get within arms reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 1 hour ago, eddie said: Nobody in the history of the world has ever changed their opinion of Nigel Clough. I did. I thought he could go on to be England manager when he first arrived and was all fresh and attacking. That soon changed and so did my predictions for his future. He needs a club job where the ambition is purely to survive, as i think he's the kind of manager that will win as many as lose, which is usually enough to keep you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 He lost a lot more than he won for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 He's not a winner. Too worried about losing. Too safe. Boring. All the traits a football fan wants in a man leading there team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 25 minutes ago, Hinzy9 said: He lost a lot more than he won for us Wouldn't be surprised if he averaged between 1.2 and 1.5 points a game though. Which is bang average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Confirmed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The only Burton fan in the office is pretty peeved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Hope he does well. It's a reputation risk with Burton being top at the moment. I doubt their Chairman expected automatic promotion at the start of the season and doubt he does now. They have lost 5 already but don't draw much! I just hope he enjoys it and takes most of the fans along with him. A current fan base of less than 3,000 might take some of the pressure off. It probably brings about an element of realism from "on high" about their prospects too, not that we should entertain such thoughts on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 6 minutes ago, BOB BIGGS said: Hope he does well. It's a reputation risk with Burton being top at the moment. I doubt their Chairman expected automatic promotion at the start of the season and doubt he does now. They have lost 5 already but don't draw much! I just hope he enjoys it and takes most of the fans along with him. A current fan base of less than 3,000 might take some of the pressure off. It probably brings about an element of realism from "on high" about their prospects too, not that we should entertain such thoughts on here No doubt he will soon fix that, turning wins into draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 El Kyati will probably go back to Holland or wherever he came from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Personally I don't give a toss about Burton,never been interested.I don't live that side of Derby,I have supported Borrowash Vics occasionally,but that's all. Burton are welcome to him,he's loser,failed every club he's managed.We should have dumped him after a few months,we have never looked back since we sacked him.The 2 managers at Burton have done more for them in a short time than Clough did in 10 years,if we hadn't sacked him we would have been relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 4 minutes ago, top 6 finish said: Personally I don't give a toss about Burton,never been interested.I don't live that side of Derby,I have supported Borrowash Vics occasionally,but that's all. Burton are welcome to him,he's loser,failed every club he's managed.We should have dumped him after a few months,we have never looked back since we sacked him.The 2 managers at Burton have done more for them in a short time than Clough did in 10 years,if we hadn't sacked him we would have been relegated. Just sit back and see what happens to the current league leaders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 25 minutes ago, top 6 finish said: Personally I don't give a toss about Burton,never been interested.I don't live that side of Derby,I have supported Borrowash Vics occasionally,but that's all. Burton are welcome to him,he's loser,failed every club he's managed.We should have dumped him after a few months,we have never looked back since we sacked him.The 2 managers at Burton have done more for them in a short time than Clough did in 10 years,if we hadn't sacked him we would have been relegated. I have a severe case of Poe's law with this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 On 05/12/2015 15:06:52, davenportram said: 10th from bottom and dropping fast? Grow up and open your eyes. The season had barely started when he was sacked. Thank you for that and by your normal standards almost coherent and mercifully brief. If you can't see the massive improvement at this club since Mr.Clough was awarded the honour of the Spanish archer (El bow), then there really is no hope for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Had we sorted ourselves out from set-pieces and started Eustace as often as we did under McClaren and we'd have made the play-offs that year anyway. We tore apart the weaker sides and the top sides respected us - but through our lack of a holding midfielder and frailties from set-pieces they would easily beat us. Take the Burnley and Leicester games - we bossed Leicester, but they scored from a set piece that was cleared off the line, hit Grant in the back and went in. The Burnley game I seem to remember Shackell scoring from a corner and their other two coming on the break, with nobody their to stop the counter - I seem to remember Ings running half the length of the pitch, straight down the middle unopposed. To say we were on a downward spiral under him is ridiculous: we were only two tweaks away from competing for a play-off spot. McClaren's hiring was correct however, as he took us up to another level and had us competing for the automatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 10 minutes ago, cannable said: Had we sorted ourselves out from set-pieces and started Eustace as often as we did under McClaren and we'd have made the play-offs that year anyway. We tore apart the weaker sides and the top sides respected us - but through our lack of a holding midfielder and frailties from set-pieces they would easily beat us. Take the Burnley and Leicester games - we bossed Leicester, but they scored from a set piece that was cleared off the line, hit Grant in the back and went in. The Burnley game I seem to remember Shackell scoring from a corner and their other two coming on the break, with nobody their to stop the counter - I seem to remember Ings running half the length of the pitch, straight down the middle unopposed. To say we were on a downward spiral under him is ridiculous: we were only two tweaks away from competing for a play-off spot. McClaren's hiring was correct however, as he took us up to another level and had us competing for the automatics. Which year are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 2 hours ago, Anon said: I have a severe case of Poe's law with this comment. I had to look up that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 4 hours ago, rynny said: No doubt he will soon fix that, turning wins into draws. I see where you're coming from. He'll probably look to turn some of the defeats into draws too so some balance achieved. The fact that Fleetwood were able to put 4 past them not too long ago shows that they're fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 2 minutes ago, BOB BIGGS said: I see where you're coming from. He'll probably look to turn some of the defeats into draws too so some balance achieved. The fact that Fleetwood were able to put 4 past them not too long ago shows that they're fragile. I did say it in jest, although with a hint of honest opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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