Mostyn6 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No proof but there's evidence that might support it. it's been said it is in the breeding. Sad fact is only a few hundred years ago, an intelligent black man was no use to anyone, so didn't survive, the strong and athletic were kept as slaves and traded as such. This forced most western blacks into regression as they had no use for brainpower. The opposite of evolving. I would say that Eranio on the whole is wrong. The top end of Western Blacks could easily match the top end of European Whites (which I'm classing Eranio as) the rest of the world (3rd world) has caught up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 subject A = Frank Brunosubject B = Stephen Hawkings you do the math(s)Maths test done. As a general rule of thumb.The only time that I saw Frank lose his concentration was when he had Tyson stunned but did not him him straight away and probably knock him out. Frank was a boxer but also a very nice guy. Stephen had the incredible concentration before he became ill and his condition did not rob him of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 it's been said it is in the breeding.Sad fact is only a few hundred years ago, an intelligent black man was no use to anyone, so didn't survive, the strong and athletic were kept as slaves and traded as such. This forced most western blacks into regression as they had no use for brainpower. The opposite of evolving. I would say that Eranio on the whole is wrong. The top end of Western Blacks could easily match the top end of European Whites (which I'm classing Eranio as) the rest of the world (3rd world) has caught up yet.I think it's more about the environment you live in. If you live in a under developed country, with poor health and security then this is going to have an impact. These areas are not just found outside of Europe, many eastern europeans face the same issues of a bad environment to develop in. Regardless of what we think of genetics all living things react to their surroundings. So if that's not a nourishing in environment, regardless of their genetic makeup they are going to find it harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It isn't about race it's actually about class. If you are working class you have less focus on your formal education. You are also more likely to be from a broken home. Being from a broken home you are more likely to begin puberty at an earlier age. So you begin to show signs of becoming and being an adult. You have superior physical attributes to your peers. Coaches notice this and you get fast tracked into sports and teams. With that you now have the coaching and physical attributes to be superior to your peers.The problem is this contributes to the further decline in educational focus. You are good and better than everyone else at this thing but bad in comparison with everyone else for these things. So your formal education suffers further. You can train them to be physical and teach them how to do an activity, but they relate little of it to or transfer it to any other parts of their life. There is very little self awareness and understanding. You only have to look at our Olympians. Almost half of medalists go to just a handful of schools. It isn't about the training they receive in relation to sports but their formal education. If you compared someone from these schools to the sports kid from a working class background that goes to the community school (young teenagers) you can see the difference. One set is more physical the other displays signs of greater mental attributes. The class gap is growing. There is only one way to plug this gap and it involves Grammar schools and grants and scholarships for the fee paying schools. Black people are predominantly working class. They (the entire race) are not inferior intellectually. They are not even superior physically. They are simply a product of their environment. Them being predominately working class has nothing to do with genetics. The problem is most people can't see this all for what it actually is. A lot of people come out with stuff like Eranio. Now I don't know what he specifically is trying to say. But saying what he did say doesn't automatically imply the person thinks it is down to genetics. People can huff and puff but his thesis isn't outright wrong. What matters is the reasons why. It's the same reason why we have so few black coaches and managers. Their class puts them in a position where formal education is less important. This for a lot of people is hard to recognize because of the position white people have in the class spectrum. They are found right at the bottom and right at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The fact that he has come out and said that proves...it doesn't matter where you are from, anyone can be an idiot.Stefano you idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 As an ex teacher, I was able to clearly recognise different types of equally valid expressions of so called intelligence. The worst form of intelligence that I encountered was the 'arrogant but intelligent' version. YUK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No proof but there's evidence that might support it. What's your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 it's been said it is in the breeding.Sad fact is only a few hundred years ago, an intelligent black man was no use to anyone, so didn't survive, the strong and athletic were kept as slaves and traded as such. This forced most western blacks into regression as they had no use for brainpower. The opposite of evolving. I would say that Eranio on the whole is wrong. The top end of Western Blacks could easily match the top end of European Whites (which I'm classing Eranio as) the rest of the world (3rd world) has caught up yet.I'm not saying I agree with it, although the person who published it was accused as being racist which seems ridiculous. I don't know whether it's a 'fact' that blacks have regressed through slavery, merely a theory. And that would predicate on the idea that slavery was a case of blacks being exploited by whites when the poor being exploited by the rich is more accurate. What is the excuse in the regression for the blacks who sold slaves. And what consideration for experiencing the Iron Age significantly later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 No proof but there's evidence that might support it. @Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 it's been said it is in the breeding.Sad fact is only a few hundred years ago, an intelligent black man was no use to anyone, so didn't survive, the strong and athletic were kept as slaves and traded as such. This forced most western blacks into regression as they had no use for brainpower. The opposite of evolving. I would say that Eranio on the whole is wrong. The top end of Western Blacks could easily match the top end of European Whites (which I'm classing Eranio as) the rest of the world (3rd world) has caught up yet.100% wrong. The "slave gene" is a myth. There are plenty of articles online dismissing this theory. As a few people are posting here, athletic prowess is more about upbringing and environment, not because all the intelligent back people died and the strong ones were kept around as slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 @Albert It says "indigenous". Albert's a convict! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What's your source?Richard Lynn. 2006. Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis. Has attracted controversy unsurprisingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I would say the aborigines of Australia are far more intelligent than us. They survived in a hostile environment for thousands of years living as one with nature until us thickos turned up, knackered their whole existence up completely and left them with Rupert fookin Murdoch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 It says "indigenous".Albert's a convict!Whoa! I was just bringing the graph to Alberts attention, being a graph man and I know he has an opinion on sources, just wanted to know his thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 100% wrong. The "slave gene" is a myth. There are plenty of articles online dismissing this theory. As a few people are posting here, athletic prowess is more about upbringing and environment, not because all the intelligent back people died and the strong ones were kept around as slaves. it's a similar theory behind the Usain Bolt phenomenon! The theory is that Jamaica is mainly made up from people who's ancestors were the strongest slaves a few hundred years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Damn shame Stefano. Sort yourself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Rams Talk?I thought Ram Talk was for anything Derby Realted (he played for us) and Footbal Talk for other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 What we're talking about is two different things isn't it and what he did was bring colour into it, which is totally wrong. A black person born in England is going to have as much in common or not as there would between any other white or black person born in England.Where there may be a chance to discuss differences, is in environment. Whether that be because of poverty, lack of access to education, lack of technology etc. Differences are nearly always environmental. If you live or lived in a place rich with raw materials - be that crops, animals, machines- then you will have more time to read, learn, think..so..going right back, if you were a hunter gatherer then that's what you did all day. If you had enough fertile land to grow crops and stay in one place then you would have had more time eventually to specialise in trades, and then again teach,read, learn more. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't condem or agree at all with what Eranio s said but is that really classed as racism ? He's just stating a point that HE believes is true ! He mentions in there about black people being stronger than whites ! Is that racist too then ? I'm not racist in anyway shape or form but I think it's all gone a bit too politically correct ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't condem or agree at all with what Eranio s said but is that really classed as racism ? He's just stating a point that HE believes is true ! He mentions in there about black people being stronger than whites ! Is that racist too then ? I'm not racist in anyway shape or form but I think it's all gone a bit too politically correct !yes it is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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