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So people moved away from the 4-5-1? to the diamond?

 

Will have to see the diamond work IMO I don't think it will. Could always be a plan b but the teams listen in this thread are deadly and should be aiming for top 2!!

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The players have definitely grown into the diamond formation over the past month or so. Hendrick and Hughes are as fit as they ever have been. It was one of my main gripes last season, but watching them this pre-season they are non-stop running and closing down. 

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So people moved away from the 4-5-1? to the diamond?

 

Will have to see the diamond work IMO I don't think it will. Could always be a plan b but the teams listen in this thread are deadly and should be aiming for top 2!!

4-4-2 diamond and 4-5-1 are usually used together, depends are we attacking or defending and how the opposition plays. So basicly it's just a case of throwing starting lineup here! Back five are same but rest are impossible to put in place.

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Neil Lennon will be aware of the attacking threat of Derby and probably go to his 4-2-3-1 formation he used at Celtic a lot. A diamond formation against that won't see any of the ball.

Paul Clement said he'll shift the players for formation to match his opposition so this is how I think we should set up (used lineupbuilder because it's more visual)

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=86gx5

Forsyth on the left wing to overlap Weimann and provide width, Warnock is more of a defender as I feel we'll have to overload their defense because Neil Lennon knows how to park the bus well (e.g. Celtic v Barcelona).

Put Baird in the right back position because he can move forward and provide the distribution from a safe area.

Weimann and Ince as inside forwards, running past defenders with Martin, Hughes and Thorne providing the incisive passing through the lines.

 

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I'd stick with last nights formation, but whack Forsyth in at LB. Not that Warnock wasn't good, I'm just a fan of the more attacking full back, not an aspect we have with both Baird and Warnock in the team, and I rate Baird more highly than Warnock, and Forsyth more highly than Christie. 

I'd also stick Shackell in for Pearce.

 

                                                         Grant

Baird                    Keogh                                        Shackell               Forsyth

                                                         Thorne

                                        Hughes                     Hendrick

                                                            Ince

                                             Martin                   Weimann

 

*drool*.

 

Having Forsyth up and down the flank gives us the width which a 4-4-2 diamond often lacks.

exactly my line up. If 433 just push Martin forward and Weimann back

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Sorted!


                                                            Grant or Carson
Christie or Baird.       Keogh or Shotton       Pearce or Shackell       Warnock or Forsyth
                                                         Thorne or Hanson.     
                             Hendrick or Bryson             Hughes or Dawkins
                                                                 Ince 
                                   Bent or Martin.                Russell or Weimann





 

So you're sure about Ince then....

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4-4-2 (Diamond wide) 

Grant

   Baird                                              Shackell                                              Bucko                                  Fozzy

Thorne 

 

                                Ince                                                                                                                     Russell

Hughes

 

Martin                                           Bent

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4-4-2 (Diamond wide) 

Grant

   Baird                                              Shackell                                              Bucko                                  Fozzy

Thorne 

 

                                Ince                                                                                                                     Russell

Hughes

 

Martin                                           Bent

No offence, but that's a horrendous team.

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Team vs Bolton

                  De Gea

Ramos Bucko The Shack Fozzy

                  Thorne

              Ince      Hughes

                   Di Maria

               Martin Dzeko

 

I think Mel's planning to scupper a few moves this week...

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Only nailed on defo starters are Grant, Shackell, Thorne, Weimann and Ince

I'd say Martin and Hughes are pretty certain to play if fit, with Keogh, Baird, Forsyth and Hendrick making up the 11. Leaving Russell and Bent to come on off the bench, with Christie and Pearce pushing for a place too. I like Dawkins but him and Bryson look out of the picture to me...but what do I know, lots of options that's for sure.

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Grant

Baird         Keogh        Shackell     Forsyth

Thorne        Hughes

Russell           Ince        Weimann

Martin

That would be my team. I think you have to take your hat off to Russell, who one month ago looked to be a bench player but now looks like guaranteed starter, well unless we go 4-4-2:

Grant

Baird             Keogh        Shackell         Forsyth

Thorne

Hughes                              Hendrick

Ince

Weimann                   Martin

 

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Grant

Baird         Keogh        Shackell     Forsyth

Thorne        Hughes

Russell           Ince        Weimann

Martin

That would be my team. I think you have to take your hat off to Russell, who one month ago looked to be a bench player but now looks like guaranteed starter, well unless we go 4-4-2:

Grant

Baird             Keogh        Shackell         Forsyth

Thorne

Hughes                              Hendrick

Ince

Weimann                   Martin

 

it will be your second selection that starts season, but Carson to play.....formation can be either, but more likely the first. Either way, we have a great squad now ...bench to be from

bent, Russell, Pearce, Warnock, Bryson, grant, Dawkins (who had a truly storming last twenty minutes today ) 

if Thorne stays fit, we should be fine

 

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Conversation with my lad last night..........:blink:

Yeh, but........Clement likes a diamond.
                                                        Carson
                              Baird.          Keogh      Shackell       Forsyth
                                                         Thorne 
                                        Hendrick                  Hughes 
                                                          Ince  
                                           Martin.                   Russell 
Yeh, but.....with a fully fit squad 4-3-3 worked last year!                                   
                                                             Grant 
                                        Baird.     Keogh    Shackell.   Forsyth
                                             Hendrick    Thorne    Hughes
                                         Ince               Martin.          Weimann
 

Yeh, but......first game of the season, happy with a point, hit em on the break
                                                             Carson
                                      Christie    Keogh     Shackell    Forsyth
                                                       Thorne      Baird
                                             Ince        Hendrick     Hughes 
                                                              Martin


Yeh, but..........were playing Bolton, 6/1 to be relegated, let's batter em!
                                                             Carson

                                    Christie      Keogh    Shackell    Forsyth

                                                    Thorne       Baird

                                     Russell       Martin    Ince      Weimann


                                                                   







 

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Grant

Baird         Keogh        Shackell     Forsyth

Thorne        Hughes

Russell           Ince        Weimann

Martin

That would be my team. I think you have to take your hat off to Russell, who one month ago looked to be a bench player but now looks like guaranteed starter, well unless we go 4-4-2:

Grant

Baird             Keogh        Shackell         Forsyth

Thorne

Hughes                              Hendrick

Ince

Weimann                   Martin

 

Possibly your second choice  will start - I personally think that this formation will destroy teams this year, we got defenders that can defend, midfielders that can pass and a fast forward line, wow this sounds good.;)

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I doubt it will be a 4-2-3-1, in the post match interview Clement said that it was the first time they'd tried it and not even done it in training, he'll probably give it another go against Portsmouth.

               Grant

Baird Keogh Shackell Forsyth

               Thorne

     Hendrick   Hughes

                 Ince

     Weimann   Martin

Subs

Carson

Christie

Pearce

Hanson

Dawkins

Russell (Sorry Johnny, I love you but its the bench im afraid)

Bent

Trying to fit everyone onto a subs bench is hard; No Shotton, Bryson, wanted to get Ssewankambo in there, no room for Warnock, where does Bucko fit in?

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