Rev Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 GrantBaird Keogh Shackell Forsyth Hughes Thorne Ince Wiemann Russell MartinSubs Carson, Bent, Christie, Hanson, Pierce,Warnock and Hendrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I think the starting 11 could be numerous players from our squad, I believe that PC having different formations will not have a nailed on starting 11. It will change for each match depending on 4-4-2 to 4-3-3 etc and also our opponents. Only Paul will know and in him we must trust. He did it at Real Madrid as assistant coach, they also changed their line ups and formations quite often against La Liga teams and when in Champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I'd stick with last nights formation, but whack Forsyth in at LB. Not that Warnock wasn't good, I'm just a fan of the more attacking full back, not an aspect we have with both Baird and Warnock in the team, and I rate Baird more highly than Warnock, and Forsyth more highly than Christie. I'd also stick Shackell in for Pearce. GrantBaird Keogh Shackell Forsyth Thorne Hughes Hendrick Ince Martin Weimann *drool*. Having Forsyth up and down the flank gives us the width which a 4-4-2 diamond often lacks.That's the one Howard, can't believe we would go much different to this after the friendlies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Even trying to do the bench is difficult. Just proves why a few exits are needed. I think 3 more will leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukedcfc Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Grant Baird Keogh Shackell Forsyth Thorne Hughes Russel Ince Weimann Martin subs: Carson, Pearce, Dawkins, Shotton, Hendrick, Bryson, Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRam Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 GrantBaird Keogh shackell ForsythThorneBryson HughesInceWeimann MartinSubs: Carson Christie Pearce Hendrick Dawkins bent Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So many options I personaly like the 4-2-3-1 Hughes and Thorne next to each other is brilliant or 4-1-4-1 with Hughes in more of a playmaker role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 GrantBaird Pearce Shackell ForsythHughes ThorneRussell Ince WeimannMartin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The only position I'm unsure about at the moment is the partner to Shackell. I've still not really seen enough of Pearce, Shotton's been very good in pre-season, but Keogh based on the past is the best choice for it. Also, I suppose I'm not 100% who'll be the starting GK, but I imagine Clement isn't fully sure himself yet.I'll go: Carson Baird Keogh Shackell Forsyth Thorne Hughes Russell Ince Weimann Martin So, almost the same as above. I've a feeling we'll play a similar way that we played against Burton because that seems like an away formation to me, but putting Baird in DM and someone else at RB would mean leaving Hughes out. Bias aside, Hughes isn't going to be left out as he's been our best player (at least one of) in pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Hughes was outstanding against Utrecht and Villareal. I cannot see him not starting, irrespective of formation because he can play anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyHudson Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'd still like to see Ince out wide. I know he's being touted as this great Number 10 who could be deadly in behind the striker (and I'm sure he could be), but from what I've seen so far of him in that position during pre-season, the game seems to pass him by somewhat.When he's played in the middle he can often be double-marked out of the game and the opposition are still able to maintain some balance to their formation. Put him wide and the opposition need to overload their left side in order to double team him, creating extra space in the middle.He obviously enjoys being in the middle of the pitch, as evidence by his tendency to drift inside when played wide right, but I do think he needs to pick the ball up wide initially as it affords him an extra few seconds and a little more space to receive the ball and assess his options before coming inside. It also gives other players chance to make runs and drag defenders around, creating pockets for him to move into and/or passing options. With Weimann in the hole, it would simply be a question of them swapping over whenever Ince cuts inside. Yes, it's a bit "one-trick-pony", but as we saw last season it can be very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'd still like to see Ince out wide. I know he's being touted as this great Number 10 who could be deadly in behind the striker (and I'm sure he could be), but from what I've seen so far of him in that position during pre-season, the game seems to pass him by somewhat.When he's played in the middle he can often be double-marked out of the game and the opposition are still able to maintain some balance to their formation. Put him wide and the opposition need to overload their left side in order to double team him, creating extra space in the middle.He obviously enjoys being in the middle of the pitch, as evidence by his tendency to drift inside when played wide right, but I do think he needs to pick the ball up wide initially as it affords him an extra few seconds and a little more space to receive the ball and assess his options before coming inside. It also gives other players chance to make runs and drag defenders around, creating pockets for him to move into and/or passing options. With Weimann in the hole, it would simply be a question of them swapping over whenever Ince cuts inside. Yes, it's a bit "one-trick-pony", but as we saw last season it can be very effective.Ince is very easy to knock off the ball.He therefore needs room in which to collect the ball so he has it at his feet before a challenge comes in on him. He can then use his pace and skill to beat opponents.He is more likely to get that space on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The only position I'm unsure about at the moment is the partner to Shackell. I've still not really seen enough of Pearce, Shotton's been very good in pre-season, but Keogh based on the past is the best choice for it. Also, I suppose I'm not 100% who'll be the starting GK, but I imagine Clement isn't fully sure himself yet.I'll go: Carson Baird Keogh Shackell Forsyth Thorne Hughes Russell Ince Weimann Martin So, almost the same as above. I've a feeling we'll play a similar way that we played against Burton because that seems like an away formation to me, but putting Baird in DM and someone else at RB would mean leaving Hughes out. Bias aside, Hughes isn't going to be left out as he's been our best player (at least one of) in pre-season.Looks great on paper and provides great attacking options but what happens when we don't have the ball? Thorne looks very isolated.Don't be surprised if we lose him to suspension this season.Some of his tackling is Scholes -like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Looks great on paper and provides great attacking options but what happens when we don't have the ball? Thorne looks very isolated.Don't be surprised if we lose him to suspension this season.Some of his tackling is Scholes -like.It's fine... We have Baird and Hanson to step in now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerRam Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 If you were to make a decision now, assuming no more players arrive and taking into account who's likely to be match fit, who would make your starting XI for the first game of the season and in what system?I'd go 4-3-3Grant, Baird, Keogh, Pearce, Forsyth, Thorne, Bryson, Hughes, Weimann, Ince, Martin Would find it difficult to leave Russell out after the pre-season hes had. Its very clear he wants to fight for his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 My personal opinion is that we'll go with the 4-4-2 diamondGrant; Baird, Keogh, Pearce, Forsyth; Thorne, Hughes, Hendrick, Ince; Martin, Weimann.Bench: Carson, Christie, Shackell, Hanson, Bryson, Russell, Bent.Potentially we will change to 4-3-3 if the game isn't going our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 ...................a goalkeeperBaird......Keogh....Shackell.....warnock......................thorneince..............hughes............russell...........weimann......martin which it won't be....but that seems to be the best selection of midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 ...................a goalkeeperBaird......Keogh....Shackell.....warnock......................thorneince..............hughes............russell...........weimann......martin which it won't be....but that seems to be the best selection of midfielders Another wingers in a diamond fiasco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Another wingers in a diamond fiasco oh yeah it would be chaos to put ince where he is best suitedto hughes where is at his bestto play thorne in the holding roleto play weimann in his best position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 oh yeah it would be chaos to put ince where he is best suitedto hughes where is at his bestto play thorne in the holding roleto play weimann in his best position Ince is best at the side of a diamond? Do you know how diamonds work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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