eddie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Ince is best at the side of a diamond? Do you know how diamonds work?Diamonds sparkle when you turn them.A formation - any formation - must be able to accommodate flexibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Diamonds sparkle when you turn them.A formation - any formation - must be able to accommodate flexibilityI don't know what that means - changing formations during a game? Or playing players out of position to be flexible?If it's the first one then that formation would be very good if you wanted to change to a 4-2-4 in the second half. Which you'd probably have to do to pull it back from the 7-0 drubbing you'd get in the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I don't know what that means - changing formations during a game? Or playing players out of position to be flexible? If it's the first one then that formation would be very good if you wanted to change to a 4-2-4 in the second half. Which you'd probably have to do to pull it back from the 7-0 drubbing you'd get in the first half. Interchange and rotation within a basic formation. It's not rocket science (although bakery is probably a bit too much for you to comprehend) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Combinations, formations, configurations, systems, diamonds!..................the lop sided parallelogram is the way forward! Carson Baird. Forsyth . Keogh Shackell Thorne. Hendrick Ince. Hughes Martin. Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Interchange and rotation within a basic formation. It's not rocket science (although bakery is probably a bit too much for you to comprehend) Yeah but Eddie, certain formations ask players to perform certain roles. A midfield diamond is a formation with limited midfield width. The width is provided by fullbacks and strikers running the channels. The 'wide' midfield player will seldom make a run off the ball past the defensive line. What are we putting Ince and Russell there for? Give them the ball 40 yards out and tell them to a mazy run past 2 or 3 defenders? Is that how we play? The 'wide' midfield role also has heavy defensive duties in which they will be expected to perform ball winning duties against burly centre midfielders and at times, depending on how adventurous the fullbacks are being, they're also expected to cover at fullback - not helping the fullback out but actually covering for the fullback and playing the fullback role. So why not just play Ince at Left Back? Or get Nigel Clough back? He loved that stuff. Are you aware of any recent teams who play the midfield diamond with small, nippy wingers on the sides of a diamond with any success? Perhaps they're out there but I'm not aware of it. The position is best suited to a box to box midfielder like Hendrick or Bryson. Hughes did well at it vs Villareal but you could tell he was playing out of his skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 diamond = no width = no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In the diamond in Pre-season (2 games?), Ince played at the point and Russell played upfront. Hendrick and Hughes played on either side of the diamond (with Bryson replacing Hendrick) because that position needs the engine to run between attack and defense.We'd never play the diamond with Ince or Russell at the left/right midfielder, I wouldn't imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Total Football. I'm sure some techi type whizzy can change the personnel on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Total Football. I'm sure some techi type whizzy can change the personnel on here! Couldn't see them winning many games if they're all constantly swapping places. No time to actually get on the ball. At least the GK will always be in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Couldn't see them winning many games if they're all constantly swapping places. No time to actually get on the ball. At least the GK will always be in goal. 1974 Holland World Cup Final team..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Combinations, formations, configurations, systems, diamonds!..................the lop sided parallelogram is the way forward! Carson Baird. Forsyth . Keogh Shackell Thorne. Hendrick Ince. Hughes Martin. Russell We look a little exposed down our right but by gum we are strong down the left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 1974 Holland World Cup Final team..................... I cant imagine how much the other teams in the tournament must have been swapping places then. Ball must've hardly been been kicked at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I would go with this but looking at other suggestions I reckon we haven't found our plan A which is a good feeling. We will know more in a few months regarding tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I would go with this but looking at other suggestions I reckon we haven't found our plan A which is a good feeling. We will know more in a few months regarding tactics. I wouldn't be able to leave Hughes out, the lads have a fantastic pre-season. I reckon we'll start Bolton with the diamond, they don't really have the attacking threat necessary to turn to the two DM set-up in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Hendricks has to start for me. Carson Baird. Keogh. Shackell. Warnock Thorne. Hendrick. Hughes. Ince Wiemann Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Hendricks has to start for me. Carson Baird. Keogh. Shackell. Warnock Thorne. Hendrick. Hughes. Ince Wiemann Bent. No Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 No Martin? It is a massive call for this game but I think the pace of Bent , Ince and Wiemann will disrupt Bolton and that's why I've gone Bent. I wouldn't be worried either way between Martin or Bent being chosen but I think Bents pace behind could work well in this game as Bolton have defensive injuries for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 It is a massive call for this game but I think the pace of Bent , Ince and Wiemann will disrupt Bolton and that's why I've gone Bent. I wouldn't be worried either way between Martin or Bent being chosen. I think Sammon could disrupt this Bolton side to be honest. Injury riddled. Just got to keep them out of the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 It is a massive call for this game but I think the pace of Bent , Ince and Wiemann will disrupt Bolton and that's why I've gone Bent. I wouldn't be worried either way between Martin or Bent being chosen. Would you say Bent has pace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 What the hell has just happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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