rammieib Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hopefully he can have a good game and someone will bid for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'll definitely be watching. I'd not be surprised to see Dawkins benched though. He's really not doing too well in that hole behind Barnes. It's a feckin' ridiculous tactic if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 On his day, he's probably one of our best technical players. Just doesn't have his day very often, if at all.That strikes me as exactly the same as people who say "I've seen Will Hughes play loads of times and he never 'does' anything". Dawkins probably isn't going to score many wonder-strikes out of nowhere like Ince can, and he's probably not going to burst past 3 players and slot it like a Russell/Ward/Weimann type etc can. But he (along with Martin and Hughes) was a massive part of why we completely controlled games the season before last. You can play the ball into his feet and run off him, and you can guarantee he's going to control it, see your run and play it back to you. Just like you can with Hughes. It's no surprise to me that Forsyth and Bryson were nowhere near as effective last season, and that's in part because they were trying to make runs off someone like Russell or Lingaard rather than a technical player like Dawkins. We shouldn't be judging Dawkins by the number of assists or goals he gets, we should be judging him on the same criteria we should be judging Hughes on, which (IMO anyway) is something like the number of balls played into feet in the final third. If Dawkins plays say half a dozen good balls into feet in the final third, he's had a good game, whether he scores or assists or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The fact that I intend to watch this match is probably guarantee enough that he'll be on the bench.I'd really much rather he wasn't away with Jamaica at all given the timing. He's had pretty much zero opportunity to make an impression on Paul Clement and vice versa, right at a time when players are playing for their positions and looking to impress. This concerns me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 That strikes me as exactly the same as people who say "I've seen Will Hughes play loads of times and he never 'does' anything". Dawkins probably isn't going to score many wonder-strikes out of nowhere like Ince can, and he's probably not going to burst past 3 players and slot it like a Russell/Ward/Weimann type etc can. But he (along with Martin and Hughes) was a massive part of why we completely controlled games the season before last. You can play the ball into his feet and run off him, and you can guarantee he's going to control it, see your run and play it back to you. Just like you can with Hughes. It's no surprise to me that Forsyth and Bryson were nowhere near as effective last season, and that's in part because they were trying to make runs off someone like Russell or Lingaard rather than a technical player like Dawkins. We shouldn't be judging Dawkins by the number of assists or goals he gets, we should be judging him on the same criteria we should be judging Hughes on, which (IMO anyway) is something like the number of balls played into feet in the final third. If Dawkins plays say half a dozen good balls into feet in the final third, he's had a good game, whether he scores or assists or not.Exactly, Iniesta doesn't score many goals or get many assists but you can see what a fantastic player he is, the same applies with Dawkins, no I'm not saying that Dawkins is as good as Iniesta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumblemumble Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The fact that I intend to watch this match is probably guarantee enough that he'll be on the bench.I'd really much rather he wasn't away with Jamaica at all given the timing. He's had pretty much zero opportunity to make an impression on Paul Clement and vice versa, right at a time when players are playing for their positions and looking to impress. This concerns me.Completely agree with this - makes you laugh when players get criticised for turning down international football to focus on club football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Will be watching tonight too and agree(Well aside from don't care who wins part).Dawks has played well this tournament and hopefully when gets back to Derby,a place can be found for him;I like him as a player. I like him as a man, if you catch my drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Dawkins has the ability to be a very good player in the championship. I am disappointed with his end product overall. He also completely unnecessarily runs right across the pitch to beat a man. Even turns into traffic and trouble. It all comes down to his balance for me still. Get him in the gym and work on it. It would literally take only a month. That left foot and leg of his might as well be prosthetic. He doesn't know how to balance his body on his right foot/leg or shift his weight onto them when dribbling, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Dawkins has the ability to be a very good player in the championship. I am disappointed with his end product overall. He also completely unnecessarily runs right across the pitch to beat a man. Even turns into traffic and trouble. It all comes down to his balance for me still. Get him in the gym and work on it. It would literally take only a month. That left foot and leg of his might as well be prosthetic. He doesn't know how to balance his body on his right foot/leg or shift his weight onto them when dribbling, etc. If he was played down the middle instead of on the wing then this wouldn't be a problem anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Dawkins offers something in centrel midfield but I guess another opation up front or as a winger again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The fact that I intend to watch this match is probably guarantee enough that he'll be on the bench.I'd really much rather he wasn't away with Jamaica at all given the timing. He's had pretty much zero opportunity to make an impression on Paul Clement and vice versa, right at a time when players are playing for their positions and looking to impress. This concerns me.Don't worry you pretty alcohol-addled head about it, coconut, and I won't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 If he was played down the middle instead of on the wing then this wouldn't be a problem anyway.It would be less of a problem but it would still be a problem. You watch closely the next time he is surrounded by players and the best route out is to use his left foot but he opts to turn into traffic with his right. Or the ball is perfectly setup in front of him for a left foot pass and he chooses an awkward unconventional right foot pass digging the ball out so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It works though. He rarely loses the ball and has a high pass completion. As proven his passes are regularly forward too. He's much more comparable to Hughes than any winger or striker. Hughes is another player with 1 foot. But in terms of style he's better compared to Hughes than say Russell. Dawkins gets pushed over less as he seems to bounce of people and has glue on his boots. Hughes has a better passing range. Neither take a great deal of risk meaning they lack killer instinct which is why they're not playing in the Premiership. The hardest thing for Dawkins is he's compared to strikers or traditional British wingers/wide midfielders. When people say he does nothing I wonder what they would say Iniesta does for Barcelona. Got the same worries as Coconut though. I think he's missed a vital time at Derby. The planning, the first impressions... Obviously Clement won't have forgotten him but Clement is trying to develop something and he can't work with what he's not got. He's going to struggle to get a place in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 That strikes me as exactly the same as people who say "I've seen Will Hughes play loads of times and he never 'does' anything". Dawkins probably isn't going to score many wonder-strikes out of nowhere like Ince can, and he's probably not going to burst past 3 players and slot it like a Russell/Ward/Weimann type etc can. But he (along with Martin and Hughes) was a massive part of why we completely controlled games the season before last. You can play the ball into his feet and run off him, and you can guarantee he's going to control it, see your run and play it back to you. Just like you can with Hughes. It's no surprise to me that Forsyth and Bryson were nowhere near as effective last season, and that's in part because they were trying to make runs off someone like Russell or Lingaard rather than a technical player like Dawkins. We shouldn't be judging Dawkins by the number of assists or goals he gets, we should be judging him on the same criteria we should be judging Hughes on, which (IMO anyway) is something like the number of balls played into feet in the final third. If Dawkins plays say half a dozen good balls into feet in the final third, he's had a good game, whether he scores or assists or not.Well said. I always felt more comfortable seeing Dawkins in the starting team when we had tough away games where possession would be a key factor!Every team needs the balance between strength, pace and technique.I think it was Mark Lawrenson who said something along the lines of, 'great music is made by achieving the fine balance between piano shifters and piano tuners and the same goes with football'. He was referring to the unbeaten Arsenal team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 As expected, he's not starting tonight. I haven't seen the bench but I'd assume he's on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Is this game on British TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 BT Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rodolph Austin is captain, Simon Dawkins is on the bench.I think that sums their current manager up perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rodolph Austin is captain, Simon Dawkins is on the bench.I think that sums their current manager up perfectly. Yeah who's Rodolph Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yeah who's Rodolph Austin? Er, the former Leeds United midfield bulldog. He has the touch of a... wait, I'm keeping my mouth shut this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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