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As I've posted elswehere Maguire is a known work assiociate of Rick Parry , so his views on Derby's battles with EFL will always be indintinguishable from theirs, he will always side wth them. So no he is not objective or reasonable in his views.
 
On the stadium sale how come Derby were the only ones challenged on valuation? Why were Villa and Hillsborough valuations not challenged. They were lower than Derby's but that's because their stadiums are much older.
 
Strange how the world's experts in accounting depreciation did not twig that Villa Park had depreciated by a lot more than Pride Park on account of it being about 50 years older. Duh!   
 
 

He is neither objective nor professional. The club's auditors and the Independent Panel (which included a qualified accountant) both confirmed that the club's amortisation policy was compliant with FRS 102. Maguire sought to make a name for himself by repeatedly pointing out that the policy was slightly different to that used by other clubs and inferring that we were cheating. The EFL saw this as an opportunity to get back at Mel Morris and took it to the Panel, only for us to be exonerated (save for a need to expand the notes in the accounts). Unwilling to lose face in this matter, the EFL appealed the decision (so much for the independent review process) and set up another panel with no accountants asked to rule on an accounting matter which then (unsurprisingly) found us guilty. It is this which infuriates most of our fans.
As for the stadium sale, this was a one-off opportunity to realise the increase in value of the stadium to ease the FFP situation. The valuation was professionally obtained, and both submitted to and adjusted in accordance with the stipulations of the EFL, before the transaction went ahead. Whether or not the transaction was in the best interests of the club is a moot point, but it was categorically NOT cheating. That has not stopped the media and the EFL trying to smear it as such. For the EFL to bring a disciplinary charge against the club for carrying out a transaction which they had not only sanctioned, but which had actually been adjusted in accordance with their stipulations, beggars belief and can only have been motivated by vindictiveness.
For all of their stated desire for fair play, we have seen precious little of it from the EFL so far. They have an opportunity to redeem themselves if they give the Administrators' appeal against the 12 point deduction a fair hearing. We shall see.

FFS if he can foretell such events ask him for the Euro Lottery numbers will you?! What a ducking utter exceedingly annoying prat.

Well the government didn't seem too prepared so how can a football club be expected to plan for a global pandemic.
If anything the EFL should factor in extra allowable losses in the event of a global pandemic.
The last 18 months showed the EFL hadn't the foggiest what to do, so they clearly hadn't planned for it either.

Also people prefer pay by cash with small amounts and also notice concourse less people seem not want buy stuff in pp since it went cashless.

Something of an 'unsung hero' most recently. Wazza will get all the plaudits, but in truth all the coaches deserve a doff of the cap for their sterling efforts midst the madness.

Just listened to Liam’s press conference and mightily impressed by the passion, enthusiasm and commitment for the club that he exudes - and I believe it’s genuine.  One of the reasons for the togetherness and fighting spirit that we are showing at the moment is the motivation and belief that both Wayne and Liam command……… players will walk through walls for them I’m sure and I feel this is showing on the pitch.

I’m more worried about Rick Parry! Wasn’t he filmed admitting he knew about a massive bet placed on Wigan being relegated and did nothing about it and they were put into admin the next day! 

Was our club threatening legal action against one of the other EFL clubs at the time?

Very concerning if true,  and I don't doubt it. 
Well done SirBrian,  this needs to be public knowledge. You 

Below are a couple of emails I have sent and received between Pauline Latham OBE MP and myself. I think it is important to highlight the concerns noted below to your local MPs and particularly anybody in Mrs Latham’s constituency as from her email, she is following the situation of Derby and the EFL very closely and has noted the points I have made.
Email sent to Pauline Latham OBE MP – Mid-Derbyshire constituency:
Part of the email received from Mrs Latham:
I’ve been reading this forum for years, finally decided to create an account as I am a passionate Rams fans. The EFL stand on their alleged morals of being fit and proper, how can Peter Risdale be fit and proper to hold a position on the board of the EFL???

I'd agree with the comments that there are clearly some folk still wary of attendance either for personal health or that of family but I also think there is also an element that some folk have simply got out of the habit of going.

I've certainly experienced periods in the past where we didn't seem to be going anywhere, perhaps the football was dull or whatever and it felt like I was going through the motions a bit in terms of attending but continued to do so because I've been doing so for donkeys years and what else am I going to do on a Saturday right ? With Covid though, the inability to attend games for so long might just have been a tipping point for some people and they may be grateful for the extra few hundred quid in the bank and so some folk may well be slow to come back in their former numbers.

The circus that we seem to have become won't have helped but honestly, I didn't really expect more than low 20k crowds at best. I think our current crowds are fairly respectable in the current situation and although we'll always have a hard core of support (as is the case with all teams), in the current climate IMHO it isn't really of any great surprise that more casual fans aren't turning up in huge numbers.

I would say the disappointing attendances this season also highlight how impressive Derby's attendances have been over a number of years. Never before have we had attendances over a season under 20,000 at Pride Park average. Derby always get very strong attendances, checking out other clubs for example, Stoke City averaged under 19,000 a couple of years ago, Leicester had consistently lower attendances than Derby in the championship, Forest had attendances like 19 and 20k and Sheffield Wednesday had under 19k two seasons ago. Derby had 3 seasons of over 29k support in the championship in a row. Thats impressive. If somehow Derby start getting out of a relegation fight -  no more deductions, and get a good takeover, attendances will be back up again.

Only on the shoulders.

I think even a lot of tech lovers/all ages still want their card. The option of both should always be there. Much like cash/contactless etc. 

Agreed. Someone said to me yesterday why don’t we just carry on ordering our tickets for each game onto our phones. It’s dead easy. 
Er, no. A proportion of older fans just want their season ticket safely in their wallet, so they can just travel to the ground and get easy access. 

To put it in context, there's only 5 clubs with higher averages in the Championship this season. 
Yes, I would love to emphasise to the absentees that they may not have a club to support in a few months time, but if there's anyone in the county that doesn't know that already, they must be hermits. But I do think the pandemic and the ticketing farce have knocked at least a couple of thousand off the gate and it'll take time for some people to put aside both issues before they think about returning. 

I think it is mostly COVID that is keeping fans away not the performances which actually have been pretty decent at home.

The way it is.  My dad won't go to games at the minute due to risk of illness complications but has spent £250 quid this week on crap made of static and cobwebs from the club shop. He's been a regular since about 1963 till the last couple of years and when they were terrible in the early 80's went home and away.  Are Newcastle a big club. When I went there in 1991/92 they were averaging 13-16k a game and they were nowhere near the position were in.  Leeds were filling less than half there ground 10 years ago.  When I went to Sunderland in 2007 they beat us and went top and the entire top deck of there stands was closed.  You won't be averaging 20k at any other club in this division if they were where we are.   With covid and a team full of kids and freebies with a 12 point deduction and more to come and practically no attacking options our gates have dropped around 20% from when we were flying . 

Strange times , first match for me and my lad in over a year due to illness and shielding. I know a couple of other lads who have been going for as long as me (since 1970) and they are still unsure about being in crowds. Hopefully continued good form and a few wins will start to temp folk back 

How about offering family tickets in the north stand where the childrens tickets are free? Something to increase the attendance and help generate extra revenue.

If we try and fill both ends, we will have nobody on the East or West stands. 

What I mean If we can have two stand joining in with each other or start different songs of.
Like at bbg pop side or kop side I think it was called.
Maybe something similar can be done at pp. And people can start family friendly songs while south stand can still do naughty songs.
So for me this will encourage kids to join in rather than have sit in silent to scared to join in case get told off by mum or dad.

With north stand mostly empty now I think maybe is the time to start another stand for singing section another top end were people can stand up during game. Even if market at £15 a game in that stand so if miss out on south stand there will be another standing section. Even if just upper section and leave lower section for kids so they can still sit down if they want too.

Yes, very slippery character. Wouldn't want to see him back at the club. Problem is, with the clubs dire situation, in all likelihood we are going to have to put up with some dubious characters running the club. Little prospect of ethical attracting ownership, unfortunately.