kevinhectoring

One problem is offering the city of Derby as an attractive place to spend the non-football parts of tournament life. Its a dump!

love to see B4 nominated by the EFL as Supporter of the Year. That could be quite an acceptance speech 

Credit to the ref for adding on to the 7 extra minutes. I think we got 9? 

A malaise can set in, if say we miss promotion twice. Harder to recruit, we play worse football, gates fall, the academy suffers further, sponsorship (what’s left) evaporates, Capex is reduced etc.  Surely you don’t want your team to be a perennial underachiever. 

No I’d rather be in the prem  If Brentford and Brighton can do it, why not us ?

I didn’t say I wanted us to be perennial underachievers. Brentford and Brighton are great examples, examples of clubs who built themselves up with a clear strategy in order to realise their progression and establish themselves in the top flight, neither of which had been through the recent trials we have. You’re right if we don’t go up long term the damage could be grim, if we don’t go up immediately it won’t be a catastrophe is my point, I’m just preaching a little sense and patience is all.

Have you seen our form compared to Peterborough? There’s your answer. We’re not getting the results we need to, and have a much tougher run-in. We’ve consistently proven under Paul Warne that we cannot compete with top half teams.

A malaise can set in, if say we miss promotion twice. Harder to recruit, we play worse football, gates fall, the academy suffers further, sponsorship (what’s left) evaporates, Capex is reduced etc.  Surely you don’t want your team to be a perennial underachiever. 

No I’d rather be in the prem  If Brentford and Brighton can do it, why not us ?

I would give back
I would say here I dont want it unless you live all resitractions.

I think it was more a case of Rosenior doing the coaching, whilst Rooney chose the tactics. Flip-flopping between route 1 and possession football game by game under Rooney, whilst only possession football under Rosenior is strong evidence.
Rooney = match up to the opposition
Rosenior = play our own game.
It was also Rooney picking the team, which is why we often saw Shinnie and Knight at DM for energy, pressing and 'tough tackling'.

Another scenario is we go up, get battered week in week out and get relegated back to league one which could result in us yo-yo-ing between the two. 
My view isn’t that another season in this league is “best for us”, just that it isn’t necessarily the worst case scenario some suggest either. There are pros and cons to both situations.
Promotion this season - increased revenue in the championship, potential to retain better players, potential to attract better players. We COULD do fine and stay up at the first attempt, or we COULD struggle to compete with others due to the ongoing restrictions and be relegated.
Miss out on promotion this season - We might lose some of our better players, we’ll potentially still be able to attract decent free transfers with the wages and facilities we can offer, Warne gets chance to build a more balanced team and we COULD go up next season carrying momentum into the championship at which point it’s guaranteed the business plan/restrictions will end. We COULD also miss out and be stuck in league one for longer as you suggest, but again with restrictions lifted we’d then be able to recruit far more competitively to get promoted at the third attempt.
The bit I struggle to reconcile with my own views versus other people’s is the apparent urgency some feel to be promoted and the implied short term thinking that is coming from some areas of the fan base with regards to the management team. What would be so terrible about staying in this league compared to being promoted? I want to watch Derby County play football matches and ideally win more than they lose, if that is in league one, the championship or the premier league it’s essentially the same expectation I’ll always have, just that the surroundings and standard of the opposition might change which could then affect our ability to win those games. I won’t lose the opportunity to support the club if we stay down, anymore than I will if we get promoted, so any scenario will work for me once I’ve dealt with the associated emotions of being promoted or missing out, the summer will happen, players will come and go, the club and our support will remain regardless of league, that’s the great thing for me as we so nearly lost that. 

Judging from what was written, Rooney provided the pulling power and motivated the players (he did both quite well) but it was LR who was behind tactics. If that’s right, then it would support the decision not to appoint LR on a permanent basis.  

The chance of promotion this season seems to be slipping away. We know from the last supporters’ meeting that if we get promoted, we are onto a new business plan. Given our turnover, if we do go up it will be well within us to stay up
 
Some are now saying: maybe another season in div1 will be best for us. Don’t buy that at all. We could be stuck in this league for years if we don’t get it right or if we have a run of bad luck. And we have form on both. The longer we’re down here the more difficult it’ll be to get out, EFL restrictions or not.  
 

love to see B4 nominated by the EFL as Supporter of the Year. That could be quite an acceptance speech 

love to see B4 nominated by the EFL as Supporter of the Year. That could be quite an acceptance speech 

Considering the EFL are the governing body representing the 72 non-PL clubs, they have proved themselves to be an inept, weak, self-serving organisation who far too often have failed to provide sound guidance and support to their members when it has been needed. But corrupt and dishonest? Not in my opinion and the nonsensical chanting of f*** the EFL every time a refereeing decision goes against us just continues to cause further embarrassment to our Club - our owner is trying to repair our relationship with the EFL following the disastrous stewardship of Morris and must squirm in his seat everytime it happens.
For all their faults the EFL do not appoint the officials so I fail to see how they can influence their performance - weak refereeing is rife throughout all levels of English football and despite what should have been a welcoming of VAR, it has been ridiculed because those making the decisions are, more often than not, the same incompetent officials.

I reckon Rick Parry has a Simba super king size mattress and sleeps like a baby 

I hope they can sleep at night

These awards mean very little.
Lifting the play-off trophy after climbing the Wembley steps is all that matters now.

Obviously the EFL don't use Whoscored or whatever it's called.
But it's another excuse to trot out the same pony about the EFL having yet again another hidden agenda against the club. 
Record. Change. The. 

The efl conspiracy thing is getting boring. It’s really not a thing.
cashin has been pretty average since Christmas I think. Was excellent early on though.

My overall thoughts:
- The team selection immediately had me concerned, very inexperienced back three, and Barkhuizen at wing back scares the life out of me, I don’t know why we continue to do it, I can’t think of one good performance he’s had in the role, Sibley, who I’ll get back to, by no means had a blinder at Forest Green, but didn’t do anything to warrant being dropped for an out of form right footed winger, as much as he’s better centrally at least he provides a balance as a left footer at left wing back.
- Despite my initial concerns the first half performance was really good and I was impressed with how ballsy the set up was (credit to Warne), we attacked and got shots off and just weren’t finishing our opportunities, I thought the back three were good throughout, I always like the look of young Rooney, just hope he’s not out the squad again next game, how’s he meant to find any consistency or form if he drops out the next game every time he starts? Only 1-0 up at half time though you could see the second half from a mile off, and it felt as though the players thought it too, everyone was just waiting for an equaliser after the penalty shouts, speaking of, Jason Knight has to do so much better through on goal like that, if he’s as good as we think he is he needs to bring it down and get a shot off rather than ending up wide of the goal looking for a pen. The goal’s an absolute embarrassment, for someone of his build Mendez-Laing should never get out muscled that easily, then he’s too lazy to try and win the ball back, think Barkhuizen’s attempted block was pretty weak too but that might be harsh.
- Finally, the subs were bizarre, I hate making the point over and over because it comes across like I’m his fanboy or something, but at 1-1 and in need of a goal, what possesses you to bring on Max Bird and Harvey White (who’ve both played primarily DM for us, and have 1 league goal between the pair of them) ahead of Louie Sibley, who recently won us the game at Oxford with a brace, and when you do bring him on you give him 5 minutes at wing back to make a difference, it’s f****** mad, I honestly don’t get it, is there any reasonable explanation for that? Why is Knight a guaranteed starter every week whilst Sibley gets the scrap minutes playing at wing back? And why did we take Collins off while he was actually playing pretty well and then start delivering even more crosses with our only out and out number 9 off the pitch? Surely Dobbin could’ve played off of Mcgoldrick and Collins while we were pushing for the goal. So whilst you can’t blame Warne for missed opportunities, you can certainly question his in-game decision making and substitutions, which also came too late once again, it’s made worse that I feel as though we go over this every game and have the same debate every week. 
We need 4 points from these 2 away games, Burton could end up being our biggest game as for deciding if we can achieve playoffs or not.

I think we’re an above average div1 side which has under achieved 

Credit to the ref for adding on to the 7 extra minutes. I think we got 9? 

That’s because they were still feigning injuries during the time added on.

The only extra 2 came from Jules going down and off in front of the South Stand, but yeah, I took that as acknowledgement the ref had clocked what they were up to.
Having the time back is great, still takes momentum out the game and that's more valuable tbf.

Credit to the ref for adding on to the 7 extra minutes. I think we got 9?