Alty_Ram

It's a rather strange outburst and odd take on things IMHO. Take it into any other workplace and make Rooney a Head of Department or whatever and the MD won't answer your calls or emails or give you any heads up about a looming financial crisis and then just announces Administration without even telling you before eventually deciding to speak to people ? I'd be seriously unimpressed with that.
I do however think we just need to get his settled hopefully amicably before anyone starts any war of words that might impact deals to be done. We need everyone to play their part including MM. A time for cool heads I feel.

I agree. Hence why any sort of protests could be counterproductive. I’m not excusing him but, regardless of how big a fan he is or claims to, there is only so much a man can take before he thinks **** the of you.
Now is a time to maintain a mature and respectful relationship with Mel.

It's a rather strange outburst and odd take on things IMHO. Take it into any other workplace and make Rooney a Head of Department or whatever and the MD won't answer your calls or emails or give you any heads up about a looming financial crisis and then just announces Administration without even telling you before eventually deciding to speak to people ? I'd be seriously unimpressed with that.
I do however think we just need to get his settled hopefully amicably before anyone starts any war of words that might impact deals to be done. We need everyone to play their part including MM. A time for cool heads I feel.

This would be a very slippery slope for football if they acted on it. In world of football the 'What if?' game is the road to madness and obsession. We've all seen moments of injustice down the years, for and against. Perhaps we should start reviewing decades of penalty decisions to see if we can engineer a different result and perhaps all the clubs can chip in for a massive barn-sized super computer to re-crunch every result since football has been on TV.
Perhaps Rotherham would like to sue us for that uber soft penalty for a slight jostling of Jeff Chandler ? Or perhaps we can sue Leicester for Savages dive ? Perhaps dozens of teams can sue Liverpool for the time that we were not allowed in European competition after Heysel??
Jeez, just move on man, we've getting shafted and relegated. Well done, hope you're happy now.

It's a rather strange outburst and odd take on things IMHO. Take it into any other workplace and make Rooney a Head of Department or whatever and the MD won't answer your calls or emails or give you any heads up about a looming financial crisis and then just announces Administration without even telling you before eventually deciding to speak to people ? I'd be seriously unimpressed with that.
I do however think we just need to get his settled hopefully amicably before anyone starts any war of words that might impact deals to be done. We need everyone to play their part including MM. A time for cool heads I feel.

This would be a very slippery slope for football if they acted on it. In world of football the 'What if?' game is the road to madness and obsession. We've all seen moments of injustice down the years, for and against. Perhaps we should start reviewing decades of penalty decisions to see if we can engineer a different result and perhaps all the clubs can chip in for a massive barn-sized super computer to re-crunch every result since football has been on TV.
Perhaps Rotherham would like to sue us for that uber soft penalty for a slight jostling of Jeff Chandler ? Or perhaps we can sue Leicester for Savages dive ? Perhaps dozens of teams can sue Liverpool for the time that we were not allowed in European competition after Heysel??
Jeez, just move on man, we've getting shafted and relegated. Well done, hope you're happy now.

I know what you mean. My lad goes to High School up here on the edge of Gtr Manchester and is surrounded by Man United and City fans debating the merits of signing Ronaldo. We've obviously talked about where things are up to right now with DCFC and he still went out in his Derby zip-up top yesterday and since he's been with me to both home and away games in the last few years and he's had a great time but this season for the first time it's just getting subtly more difficult to engage him about DCFC. In truth it started during the pandemic height when we only had TV to rely on and not a packed noisy stadium but in recent times a steady procession of better players (and his favourites) leaving and then this seasons debacle and he now invariably has other plans on match days.
Now we've fallen so far already and obviously he's of High School Age surrounded by his peers up here and I know this is the joy of being a Derby supporting family on the edge of Manchester, but Is he going to want to go to watch a scratch team play on a Derby park or at Notts County ? I doubt it ?.
Thing is for me too, I'm just not convinced that it would feel like the team I grew up supporting. I desperately want our club to survive in its current form or I fear that it will feel like a lot of the magic has gone. This club has been a big part of my life since I was dragged to my first game as a young lad. How did it come to this... ?

I know what you mean. My lad goes to High School up here on the edge of Gtr Manchester and is surrounded by Man United and City fans debating the merits of signing Ronaldo. We've obviously talked about where things are up to right now with DCFC and he still went out in his Derby zip-up top yesterday and since he's been with me to both home and away games in the last few years and he's had a great time but this season for the first time it's just getting subtly more difficult to engage him about DCFC. In truth it started during the pandemic height when we only had TV to rely on and not a packed noisy stadium but in recent times a steady procession of better players (and his favourites) leaving and then this seasons debacle and he now invariably has other plans on match days.
Now we've fallen so far already and obviously he's of High School Age surrounded by his peers up here and I know this is the joy of being a Derby supporting family on the edge of Manchester, but Is he going to want to go to watch a scratch team play on a Derby park or at Notts County ? I doubt it ?.
Thing is for me too, I'm just not convinced that it would feel like the team I grew up supporting. I desperately want our club to survive in its current form or I fear that it will feel like a lot of the magic has gone. This club has been a big part of my life since I was dragged to my first game as a young lad. How did it come to this... ?

Dont worry the lads and club still ve around then mate.

Yup, I think we are well past 'Beggars can't be choosers' at this point ?

I know what you mean. My lad goes to High School up here on the edge of Gtr Manchester and is surrounded by Man United and City fans debating the merits of signing Ronaldo. We've obviously talked about where things are up to right now with DCFC and he still went out in his Derby zip-up top yesterday and since he's been with me to both home and away games in the last few years and he's had a great time but this season for the first time it's just getting subtly more difficult to engage him about DCFC. In truth it started during the pandemic height when we only had TV to rely on and not a packed noisy stadium but in recent times a steady procession of better players (and his favourites) leaving and then this seasons debacle and he now invariably has other plans on match days.
Now we've fallen so far already and obviously he's of High School Age surrounded by his peers up here and I know this is the joy of being a Derby supporting family on the edge of Manchester, but Is he going to want to go to watch a scratch team play on a Derby park or at Notts County ? I doubt it ?.
Thing is for me too, I'm just not convinced that it would feel like the team I grew up supporting. I desperately want our club to survive in its current form or I fear that it will feel like a lot of the magic has gone. This club has been a big part of my life since I was dragged to my first game as a young lad. How did it come to this... ?

It's the loss of the history associated with Derby County that would do it for me. Even hating 99.99% of football there's still that bond to Derby that pulls at you. Even if you haven't watched any match in a year, you still look up to see how Derby are. 
"It's in your DNA"
It actually is. 
You can't name exactly what it is but an important part is how it runs through families and ties generations together. How the past inspires the future. 
You feel part of something that began almost 140 years ago and feel emotions for events and people that lived and played before you were born etc. 
Being born again..  I think for some it would feel kind of hollow. Like, it is Derby County, but it isn't. 
Anybody who's tired of football will lose their interest entirely I think if Derby County as we know it die

Yup, I think we are well past 'Beggars can't be choosers' at this point ?

Yup, I think we are well past 'Beggars can't be choosers' at this point ?

I don't think they'll ask his opinion, will they? 
They'll literally do everything they need to do to keep the club alive. They won't care what league or what the morale. They'll sell Knight, the flat screen tv's, office chairs and pay next to nothing (or nothing) to unsecured creditors to make sure secure creditors get paid? They just do whatever it takes. 
Be nice if a buyer comes to the rescue but I imagine they'll wait and buy the club when we don't have a pot left to piss in
Unless somebody wants to part with tens of millions to buy a club that doesn't own its ground or training facilities, has -12 more points and no senior players of any value. Fingers crossed that somebody is that mad. 

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.

The thing is with all these comments about Roos' performance (and keepers in general down the years) it's a team game and nowhere is that more obvious and important than that partnership between keeper and central defence. You get an understanding as you learn what the others are going to do in certain situations and what their strengths are.
From a keeper perspective, if you find that you don't trust your central defence as they sometimes lose a man or regularly get outjumped then you find yourself coming for crosses that perhaps you wouldn't. Likewise, as a central defender, if your keeper gets caught flat footed on his line and doesn't deal with crosses then you find yourself perhaps stretching for a header that you'd ideally leave for the keeper, possibly resulting in failing to clear the lines properly or heading vertically and chaos ensues. The opposition also notice and then just keep swinging it into the same zone of uncertainty.
Confidence breeds confidence in the partnership between central defence and keeper and while we'd ideally have slightly younger versions of Jags and Davies, their decision making is honed by years of experience and the keeper really benefits from this because some of the more risky decision making is made for you.
Really pleased for Roos and the defence last night. That was a massive test and they showed huge determination and resilience. Sure, West Brom probably should still have won but you give yourself a shot of getting something from the game if you make the opposition score their goals rather than gifting them freebies.