Steve Buckley’s Dog

We have been incredibly unlucky to be 3-1 down but really, what is Mike Dean doing? That is a blatant red card and blocking Bielik off and then allowing them to continue is a disgraceful decision.
We don’t get much luck do we. Spawny goals and the third knocked in by a player who shouldn’t be on the pitch. duck the EFL

We have been incredibly unlucky to be 3-1 down but really, what is Mike Dean doing? That is a blatant red card and blocking Bielik off and then allowing them to continue is a disgraceful decision.
We don’t get much luck do we. Spawny goals and the third knocked in by a player who shouldn’t be on the pitch. duck the EFL

@BoroWill- the reason your owner is seen as the villain of the piece is because he is.  Not because of his views of Mel Morris and not because of his previous views and comments of our club's profligate spending - you will find many/most Rams fans (no doubt some late to the party) who agree with him on both counts - but because he is and has been for many months deliberately making it impossible for us to move to new ownership without us slugging him a considerable amount of money (anything between £7m and £45m) for a perceived competitive gain, when even your own fans believe that your failure to gain a play off place that season was largely down to Pulis and a sporting/player/results failure on your part.
We have been roundly punished by the EFL's processes for our financial splurge; we have spent the vast majority of the last 3/4 seasons under a transfer embargo; we've had 9 players leave this transfer window alone, most against their will; we're down to the bare bones from a squad perspective; we're likely to get relegated despite the fantastic effort that the players are putting in to avoid that happening.  Is not all that and more, punishment enough?
Yet, for your owner, this is personal.  He doesn't care that the club, our club, is suffering, that good people are out of work, that a fan base is suffering. The proof of that is that he is continuing with a claim that is at its very, very best, purely speculative.  If he relaxed his claim we could, probably, get new owners in place, sort out creditors, be relegated and under EFL control for two more years but at least move on.  He won't let us because he doesn't like Mel Morris and wants to see Mel Morris suffer. And that is it pure and simple, and that is why he is, whatever your protestations to the contrary, the villain of this piece.  It's time for him to show some leadership, move on and concentrate on his own club.

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

I’m afraid Boro and Wycombe will be advised by their lawyers not to do this on the legal basis that their claims are against an organisation not an individual. I think Mortis probably knows this. However it will be about perception then and the pressure of the MPs could  prove decisive. Chicken noises next week I think. 

I still think the EFL are digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole here, using a spade that Boro have forced them to use while they oversee the EFL shovelling away.
In the League Arbitration Panel's ruling of 22nd October 2020, it is stated that:
On 6 September 2019 MFC commenced arbitration proceedings against EFL contending that EFL had failed to take timely disciplinary action against DCFC. On 29 November 2019 MFC and EFL agreed that this arbitration would be stayed and EFL would commence disciplinary proceedings against DCFC.
The key word here for me is 'stayed'. I did discuss this with a lawyer friend today and it does have the meaning that it implies of paused rather than stopped or terminated.
Surely if Boro initially wanted to commence proceedings directly against the EFL for not taking action against Derby, and the EFL only managed to convince Boro not to do so by saying they would commence disciplinary proceedings against Derby themselves, then the action by Boro against the EFL would not be stayed but stopped. It implies that Boro will hold the threat over the EFL that they will restart action against them if the EFL doesn't pursue Derby to their liking.
This point is also made by Mel Morris' letter today in which he says 'The root of this is that they are also under attack from Boro who basically said you pursue Derby at all costs, or we will continue with our action to pursue the EFL.'
This isn't just MM ranting or paranoia of the EFL's stance against Derby, it is spelled out in this ruling on the EFL website.
How possibly can Derby expect a fair hearing in any of the matters since the start of all this with the EFL actions clearly being influenced by the threat of a claim against them if things don't go Boro's way?
 

I’m afraid Boro and Wycombe will be advised by their lawyers not to do this on the legal basis that their claims are against an organisation not an individual. I think Mortis probably knows this. However it will be about perception then and the pressure of the MPs could  prove decisive. Chicken noises next week I think. 

I’m afraid Boro and Wycombe will be advised by their lawyers not to do this on the legal basis that their claims are against an organisation not an individual. I think Mortis probably knows this. However it will be about perception then and the pressure of the MPs could  prove decisive. Chicken noises next week I think. 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

So with the latest kick in the teeth - Ebosele signing a pre-contract deal with Udinese/Watford - it makes me return to this thread.
I appreciate @Davidand @i-Ram arguing that the Administrators should be left alone to deal with this as they see fit.
But, for me, an uneducated, unaware, non-advised onlooker, they are playing a dangerous waiting game and, in the meantime, the foundations of our club's future are being taken away.
I cannot see the EFL, Boro, Wycombe, the creditors or the potential buyers shifting their positions.
It now is all down to the Administrators.
They are legally bound to get the best deal they can for the creditors. Surely that is through a buyer. They will only secure a buyer if the monetary value of Boro and Wycombe claims is determined. That can only be done by arbitration or, my preference, in a law court.
When are the Administrators going to proceed with this action? When?
Those with access to the Administrators (B & W together on Monday for example) need to press them for an answer to that.
And, if it's not forthcoming, those Administrators should be called out.
#SaveDerbyCounty

I found that a very depressing read. So Wycombe and Boro are stakeholders because they have put in a spurious claim? Administrators need to take this to high court immediately. We also need to be seeking damages in my opinion. Parasites. 

I found that a very depressing read. So Wycombe and Boro are stakeholders because they have put in a spurious claim? Administrators need to take this to high court immediately. We also need to be seeking damages in my opinion. Parasites. 

I found that a very depressing read. So Wycombe and Boro are stakeholders because they have put in a spurious claim? Administrators need to take this to high court immediately. We also need to be seeking damages in my opinion. Parasites. 

I found that a very depressing read. So Wycombe and Boro are stakeholders because they have put in a spurious claim? Administrators need to take this to high court immediately. We also need to be seeking damages in my opinion. Parasites. 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

I already have! 
Direct action is required.

I found that a very depressing read. So Wycombe and Boro are stakeholders because they have put in a spurious claim? Administrators need to take this to high court immediately. We also need to be seeking damages in my opinion. Parasites. 

I already have! 
Direct action is required.

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend
 
 

Sorry to start a new thread but I feel very strongly about this. The two parasitic clubs should not get a penny off us. They should be taken to the high court and taken apart and if possible forced to pay damages.
Now, I have no faith in our administrators whatsoever to actually do this. There doesn’t seem to be an appetite from anyone to actually save our football club and see that justice is done.
I would  be more than willing to pay a sum to go towards Nick De Marco or suitable friend to take this to court on the clubs behalf. If we lose football is dead anyway. If we win we seek costs and get our money back or donate it to local charities if that isn’t possible. 
This needs actioning now. This needs someone - @RamsfanJim or BAWT to talk to the administrators tomorrow at the latest to clarify what they are going to do and if they aren’t willing to fight tell them we are.
I have had enough of this. Can someone who has contacts please contact the relevant people and get the wheels in motion. This parasitical, vindictive vendetta should not be allowed to stand.
 I am sure plenty on here will agree with me. 
#fighttotheend