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Turk Thrust

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  1. 33 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

    The impact of the condition is quite clear. It requires q to modify their NDAs.  It’s a very radical condition for the EFL to impose because - as you point out - there is a danger a bidder might refuse to proceed on that basis. (But why would they?) 
     

    EFl have seen q at close range and the EFl view clearly is that our salvation is more likely if EFL are involved  ( Ie their view is that q is incompetent)   I don’t need to explain why q might find the condition unacceptable 

    And before you respond telling me I’m a Buffoon, just think about it please, a bit more deeply than you have to date  

    bwt I fully respect the view that q is doing the right thing by ignoring EFL. But the proof of that will be in the pudding 

    Never called you a buffoon. I just think think that you are annoying. Even when it looks from your last sentence like you are beginning to accept that Q is correct in complying with NDAs and GDPR, you go and use the “ignoring” word. For God’s sake, Q aren’t ignoring EFL, they are complying with the law. 

  2. 38 minutes ago, StarterForTen said:

    This whole TUPE thing; it’s nonsense unless the club gets liquidated. The Administrators are selling the business ‘Derby County Football Club Limited’ as a going concern so the players would not be changing employers - just that the company that employs them has new owners. 

    But doesn’t a TUPE transfer happen when an organisation is transferred from one employer to another? Does that mean that DCFC is the organisation but is transferred to a new employer. Ooh my head hurts

  3. 41 minutes ago, jono said:

    Well if it’s a game of poker then it isn’t a regulation is it. Q will and are talking with the EFL, the bidders know they will have to deal with the EFL. The only thing Q have said is that we are legally obliged to keep the details of our bidders commercially private. The Bidders will doubtless make contact with you at the appropriate time. The parameters for retaining our golden share and payment of football creditors are laid out clearly. Other than the fit and proper persons test and the need to make a fixture list there isn’t anything else that is the EFL’s business. The ELF make the rules of the football league but they don’t make the rules on commercial and company law. Now the EFL could decide to turn nasty, vindictive, invent or reinterpret rules … but that isn’t Q’s fault or Derby’s fault. 
     

    The EFL should be saying nothing more than : “we await a formal approach from the winning bidder and look forward to working with them as soon as possible.”  Or “we await Q’s confirmation that DCFC intend to start next season in administration (with suitable a suitable funding model) while the proposed takeover negotiations  progress. We stand ready to respond promptly and reasonably to their proposals” 

    It’s no good pointing all this out to our Kev. He just doesn’t seem to grasp the basics of data protection law, or NDAs. Several posters have told him but he just keeps banging on about it. I give up. ?

  4. 1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said:

    It's my understanding that TUPE regulations aren't just for liquidation/administration stuff, it applies whenever a business is transferred to a new owner.  So all those situations would probably also apply to normal takeovers too, which would be absolute chaos.  All of Chelsea's players could tear up their contracts tomorrow, for example.

    Just reading what happened with Rangers.  "If a player wishes to object to being transferred to the new owner his contract of employment would immediately come to an end leaving him with no contract, no dismissal and no right to compensation from either old club or new club

    "Both the club and the player are then free from their contractual obligations."

  5. 14 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

    We know EFl has asked to be involved. And that Q has refused to allow EFL involvement in the bid process. Speaking daily is a completely different thing. 
    My opinion is: EFL seek involvement because they think Q have failed to handle the bid process well. And that Q won’t allow EFL involvement in part because if they do and it leads to a deal, it puts more of their fees at risk by suggesting they needed help. 

    I can see there’s an argument that q is doing the right thing because opportunist and tricky bidders such as Ashley will not consent to eFL involvement. Maybe that’s right - but I’m not convinced, because it looks like Ashley gets us only if he’s the last man standing 

    Oh come on. Several posters have explained about the legal implications imposed on Q regarding allowing EFL to have access to bid details. Why do you continue to bang on about Q refusing to allow EFL involvement in the process. It’s up to the bidders if they want to share details with EFL. And please don’t repeat the bit about Q telling bidders they must share bid details with EFL or go. That’s a good way to lose most if not all bidders faced with such an ultimatum.

  6. 13 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

    Being a Derby county fan all your life is like being in the series ‘Stranger Things’ with a proper Derbyshire girl in Kate Bush singing in the background the song ‘Running up the hill’ - we were even in the third division in the 80s as well ?‍♂️ 

    Quite. Probably “running up the hill in treacle” might be more apt. And Kate Bush a Derbyshire girl?. She’s from Bexleyheath.

  7. 18 hours ago, Shipley Ram said:

    My glass is half full of p*ss. I'm feeling very despondent about the whole thing,

    I prefer the Indian version. If you see two eyes glinting at you out of the darkness, an optimist will say “it’s a tiger”. A pessimist will say “it’s two one eyed tigers”.   At the moment I can see two one eyed tigers ? 

  8. 1 hour ago, Rev said:

    Silly me, of course you were. 

    Every time you pick up on someone else's grammar, punctuation or spelling, which is quite frequently, I always think to myself there goes a modernist.

    Well, quite often? Since I’ve nothing else to do, apart from sipping a rather fine cognac, slightly warmed, I went back through my last 50 posts and I’ve pulled someone up on spelling or grammar exactly 6 times. Is that quite often? And my brain is currently slightly sozzled so I don’t really understand the modernist bit. A literary modernist is someone who  uses spelling and grammar in a novel, non-traditional way I think. My one such usage is the emoticon for a full stop which I admit I made up, but sounds so good I may have created a new grammatical style.

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