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I agree we will never know and I’m not dissing rosenior though his style never did it for me but it’s got to be considered that without the gas out style we may have stayed around 7 th and never got into the top 6 too , when we looked really at it all over the park we had a very good run , so much so I felt we were the match for any side in the division and catching the top 2 was possible so it’s all ifs and buts really 🤷🏻‍♂️

From the Town squad, we've got a lot of peak-age players of contract who may be of interest, especially if Warne reverts back to his favoured 3-5-2 once he's had a full summer window to build a team in his image. 
I think Kane Vincent-Young (27) will be a great pickup for somebody at this level, an attacking fullback who can play either side. He started like a train when he joined but then spent a year out injured during Covid. He's been dependable whenever he's played since and would probably be first choice for two-thirds of teams in this league but he's struggled to get a look in recently since Harry Clarke arrived. The only concern is that he could lack the physicality Warne would like because he isn't particularly good in the air but is really good at bombing up and down the flanks and surprisingly good at shooting for a defender. 
Matt Penney (25) is another fullback and perfectly capable as squad filler, especially in a formation where he doesn't need to defend very often - he played left back for us but spent much of his time at Sheffield Wednesday on the left wing. He's on loan at Charlton and isn't pulling up any trees but excelled at Motherwell in the Scottish Premiership during the first half of the season. 
Joe Pigott (29) is on loan at Pompey and still has a year left on his deal but we'd be willing to let him go on a free. His spell last year was a bit of a disaster but we never played to his strengths. He's physically imposing but he was played up front by himself and was isolated with nobody to make runs off him and win the flick ons. Warne's system would suit him though; he scored 20 goals playing in a front two for a poor Wimbledon team in 20-21 and 15 in 2018-19 so with a strike partner he'd do well. 
Really interested to see Derby's recruitment this summer again. It's intriguing watch a side with a good budget for the level but very few ways they are able to spend it because of the transfer ban. 

Ah to live back up North!  I get funny looks for calling it dinner time and tea time.  Down here in the South West it's lunch time then dinner time.  If we're having friends round for a meal in the evening, dinner (tea to you and me) mysteriously becomes supper!

To misquote Peter Kay, I thought supper was a couple of digestive biscuits and a cup of cocoa before bed!

Do you usually eat between 3pm and 5pm, just thinking and this might sound crazy but hear me out…..eat before or after the game, you know, what people usually call……dinner time or tea time?

I did allow myself a ‘get in there!’ when Roberts struck his thunderbolt on Saturday.
 I obviously apologised and sat back down ?
 

We've had wingers who were poorer crossers of the ball than Korey Smith. Quite a few. And I imagine Smith, who's spent most of his career as a defensive midfielder, sitting infront of a back 4/3, hasn't previously been encouraged to "get to the byeline and dink one across to the big feller".
I think we have to accept his limitations and be grateful that he's adapted so well to the defensive side of being a RB.

Has Mrs. Ince left for Reading then?

Yeah Hanson left us in the summer and doesn't even appear to have ended up anywhere on trial since.
As for Thomas, been with us since July 2014 when brought in as part of Michael Appleton's staff. Very much the right hand man to Craig Dean (head of scouting) to begin with, but when Dean left for Leeds (October 2017), Thomas became the main man for all things recruitment, analysis and scouting. A big part of our links to the Irish leagues and successes with players brought over.
Successes include:
Rob Atkinson - signed from Eastleigh Jan 2020 Undisclosed fee. Sold July 2021 to Bristol City for circa £2m.
Rob Dickie - signed from Reading Jan 2018 Undisclosed fee. Sold Sept 2020 to QPR for circa £2m.
Tariq Fosu - signed from Charlton July 2020 Undisclosed fee. Sold Jan 2021 to Brentford for 750k (release clause)
Marvin Johnson - signed from Motherwell August 2016 650k. Sold August 2017 to Boro for circa £2.75m.
Ryan Ledson - signed from Everton August 2016 for a compo fee. Sold May 2018 to Preston for circa £1m.
John Lundstram - signed from Everton August 2015 for a compo fee. Sold July 2017 to Sheff Utd for 750k (final year of deal)
Luke McNally - signed from St Pat's Athletic Jan 2021 for circa 60k. Sold July 2022 to Burnley for circa £2.2m.
Joe Rothwell - signed from Man Utd July 2016 for a compo fee. Sold June 2018 to Blackburn for circa 500k (pre-agreed compo fee)
Mark Sykes - signed from Glenavon Jan 2019 for circa 50k. Joined Bristol City July 2022 on a free after running contract down.
Gavin Whyte - signed from Crusaders July 2018 for circa 75k. Sold July 2019 to Cardiff for circa £1.5m.
Loans over his time including Carlton Morris (now at Luton), George Baldock (now at Sheff Utd), Jonjoe Kenny (now at Hertha Berlin), Tyler Roberts (now at Leeds), Toni Martinez (now at Porto)
Also solid signings for the relevant levels - Liam Sercombe, Chris Maguire, Curtis Nelson, Cameron Brannagan.
Naturally there have been some "failures" as well - Hanson and Thorne have to be included, although with the latter, the entire medical department advised against and Karl Robinson overruled (a reoccurring theme in recent times). A couple of Irish/Scottish recruits haven't worked and there have been the failed loans that every club sees. 

But all in all, a pretty good hit rate for both improving the team, and younger "project" types to bring in and sell on.
It's noticeable that our recruitment tactic seemingly changed in the summer with older and bigger risk players coming in - Josh Murphy, Yanic Wildschut and now Thomas is looking to move on. Suggests he may have been undermined a bit more recently.

Wednesday fan in peace. Tough times for us both, 2 great clubs who’s fans deserve better than what we are getting at the minute. Hope you guys join us in the top 2 come end of the season. On current form, there’s no doubt about it. Have great memories of the baseball ground. That epic 3-3 fa cup game in 1993 is the best away game I’ve been to. Up the owls & rams ?

The point is there was a loop hole and clubs have been exploiting them until the EFL spotted and has closed them.  What's different in out case, is that a retrospective rule change was made after Admin accepted a punishment with no right of appeal.  They closed the loop on the straight line amortisation method, which means we did not break the rules, so how can we be punished? Not only that, they then relaxed the rules for covid reasons to help out other clubs, who may have been deducted points, could reading have fallen into this category for further points deductions?  Could we of stayed up had they not done this?
I agree with this, but, its also a regulators role to spot things that are going wrong in a timely manner, the EFL failed.  Rumour has it the EFL sanctioned the amortisation method we were using then changed their mind when Gibson threatened to sue the EFL!  They were too slow to act or we would of only had 1 seasons accounts to resubmit not 3 which compounded our issues!
The long and short of it Morris was far too cocky for his own good, he had the upper hand up to the point that we went into Admin which handed all the cards to the EFL.   Who threatened to keep us in Admin until we accepted a dam good thrashing.
Thankfully we still have a football club, that said though there needs to be an independent inquiry into the corrupt way that the EFL conducts its business.   The rule book needs to be tightened up to stop loop holes being exploited by some clubs, while others are absolutely hammered.
I'm grateful that we still have a football club and cannot thank David Clowes enough for his gift to the the people of Derby, his charitable act (Saving an insolvent business), which should not be forgotten, and in my view is worthy of an OBE for services to Football and the worldwide supporters of DCFC.  Lets petition our MPs to make this happen. 
Thank you David, your act of kindness will never be forgotten, we should name the North Stand after you, where you used to sit!

Dozy Mmobuosi isn't the most encouraging of names, is it?

I think you're right, mate.  ?

I did not agree points they had flaming grounds and at the dc and other thing both said that efl had no ground to take points off us and then all they could do was fine us 100k but then lost 3 appeals but 4th time lucky. And all because banker gibson and wycombe owner. Money grabbing git. And even now still after more money off us.
All it was sour freaking grabes all because were never good enough to stay up and even before they were not even in league 1 I think league 2 before they got promation to league one.
I will never ever ever ever forgive the freaking efl for what done to our club.
One thing chuckled me last night curtis davies and max bird put image on twitter saying f efl on computer screen.
That shows just how much they love the club and derby county and curtis davies stayed even through he could have gone to mk Don's he stayed with us.
If and when we get promation to the champership he might see it as job done and maybe he may leave or hang up his boots and go into coaching into under 21s or even under 18s and they have one hell of leader to.learn from.
Mighty derby county lives and now we are thriving which is showing m

The bit that caught my eye was in the Mail, about the Nigerian Billionaire stepping in to save Shef Utd. I'm always wary of the emails I get from Nigerian Billionaires.

The amortisation (player depreciation) issue. It's a weird one. Under UK Government accounting rules (FRS102), the methodology used by DCFC under MM (he told the EFL he was going to use that method in 2015, why did it take them 4 years to decide it was "illegal" under EFL rules?) is 100% legal and used by many firms. In 2019 there wasn't a specific EFL rule disallowing its use. 
The first tribunal, which contained some accountants (logical when it's an accounting issue) found the club not guilty. The EFL decided to appeal, on the very last day they could lodge an appeal. The appeal committee contained ZERO accountants to adjudge this accounting issue. They found DCFC guilty. We had to amend and resubmit several years accounts and the end result was we were seen to have broken FFP limits in, IIRC, 3 seasons. That led to the 9 point deduction.
Several months later, the EFL introduced a new rule disallowing the methodology DCFC had used. Yes, that's right. They made a rule to stop anyone else doing it. So, why did we get found guilty. The answer is that they have, alongside the specific rules, a catch all get out clause to the effect that they can decide something is wrong if they feel like it. In this case DCFC was using a different amortisation methodology to the rest of the Championship sides and that was, somehow, despite being legal, unfair to the other clubs.
Did we get shafted? IMO most definitely. Why were we shafted? Again, this is a personal opinion. MM had ruffled too many EFL feathers and was involved in a spat with another SBC club chairman and together they saw a way to "get their own back".
Move to 2023 and it seems Chelsea are doing the same, or something very similar. UEFA will be changing their rules next season to stop anybody else doing it. Chelsea have got in first and will get away with it.
Strangely enough, I'm glad someone got burnt, unhappy it was us but I sincerely hope that the EFL and PL (hopefully UEFA and FIFA too) change the rules in order to ensure no other club can get into the situation we were in.  

Reading about Timm Klose being released i thought could this be the fabled German centreback? Then found out he's actually Swiss, oh well! 

I think that the only way to know whether Chris Martin would be a good signing is with hindsight, which isn't available at the moment.
We undoubtedly play better when McGoldrick is in the team instead of Collins, and Martin is a similar style of player to McGoldrick. We don't have any direct replacements on the bench, so if neither are available,we would have to put a square peg in a round hole and cross our fingers.
I thought that Martin would have been a backward step, and we should be trying to bring in a better option, but now that the window Is shut I'm beginning to think that he could be a decent addition, even if he doesn't play a single minute.
You never know whether you need an insurance policy until you need it.
 

I think they may have a part to play yet just because not starting in first team yet does not mean they wont I dont know how long contracts are but if they run out in the summer could mean we could get them permeantly in the summer on free contracts.

That never happens
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Hi lads, Spurs fan here!

I watch quite a lot of our u21 games so hopefully I can give a fair assessment of where he's at and what he might bring you.
He's a very versatile player, he mainly plays CM or DM but has filled in at LB (our u21s dont have a natural LB) a lot and played at LM. Conte even started him as a false 9 in place of Kane in our post-worldcup friendlies but before you get your hopes up he's not a natural striker! IMO like a lot of creative players his best role is possibly AM in a free role but he's not played there much recently because our u21 team has quite a lot of forwards to accommodate. He was loaned out to Pompey a couple of seasons ago and I believe the club have had loan offers for him pretty much every window since but they've been blocked by the club for various reason which has frustratingly stalled his development a bit. He's got great range of passing and not sure how many of them are on youtube but he's scored some unbelievable direct freekicks over the years in the youth teams. The youth coaches have said he's one of the smartest players they've coached and according to the Pompey manager when he was there he's very easy to coach, "You only have to tell him an instruction once. He's like a sponge and you'll tell him something once and then he'll be doing it. He's so easy to coach, a coach's dream."
 
Hopefully it all goes ahead and he does well for you and maybe he can go on loan again with you next season in the championship ?

He's so grown on me
 

Likes a Big Mac I’ve heard which is against FGR veggie philosophy so had to get rid.

Marcus Tudgay or David McGoldrick? 

The key thing is a lot of out players are versatile so we can adapt in a short-term injury crisis.
RB - Smith, Rooney, Chester, Mendez-Laing, Barkhuizen, Knight
LB - Sibley, Roberts, Springett, Forsyth, Barkhuizen, Mendez-Laing
CB - Forsyth, Cashin, Davies, Stearman, Chester, Rooney, Roberts
CM - Bird, Hourihane, Tommo, Knight, Sibley, Smith, Rooney
AM - Knight, McGoldrick, Sibley
RW/LW - Mendez-Laing, Barkhuizen, Dobbin, Springett, Knight, Sibley
CF - Collins, McGoldrick, Dobbin, Mendez-Laing, Barkhuizen
Any signings will have the squad versatility in mind, and the impact on the team as a whole if we're missing a couple of players who can play in a certain position. Therefore, there can only really be a maximum of 2 more signings unless there's an unexpected departure. They are a CF and RB. 
Getting a CF is very important and it would free up McGoldrick's availability to fill in at AM, in the event of Knight being needed elsewhere on the field. A CF who can also play on the wing would be an added bonus, as it would ease the impact of needing to drop a winger into the full back position.
We still don't have a recognised RB, but does it matter? Smith is doing a very good job in that role, but if he's injured it has a big impact on the team as a whole. We'd be forced in to fielding an inexperienced Rooney, hope Chester doesn't get injured (once he's back) or bring one of Knight/Mendez-Laing/Barkhuizen in to that position - a move which weakens our forward options. Getting someone in to be backup to Smith, would be difficult, so it would have to be someone who can also fill in at CB and/or LB.