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    Hanny got a reaction from NottsRam77 in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    Thanks. And I think I'm hearing what you are saying as well. 
    It is frustrating to watch a system work one match and either not work the next, or get changed. Especially if the result or performance is poor. 
    I agree with you that results are a measure of short term success. Performance a measure of long term success. Which is why I am so enthralled with this season. 
    I was taught years ago; Players, not Plays. Meaning, you can scheme, plot, change, etc. But if you don't have the consistency of performance from the Players...none of it really matters, as then it becomes a guessing game, and hope/prayer/luck. 
    I think Cocu's approach is emulating Players, not Plays...and that's why I seem to be navigating the emotions of this season so well. But that's just me. I understand everybody may have a different approach. I just hope Cocu is as good as I think he his. Because if he is, then to paraphrase you...This could be a beautiful thing for the club. 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from SKRam in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    Thanks. And I think I'm hearing what you are saying as well. 
    It is frustrating to watch a system work one match and either not work the next, or get changed. Especially if the result or performance is poor. 
    I agree with you that results are a measure of short term success. Performance a measure of long term success. Which is why I am so enthralled with this season. 
    I was taught years ago; Players, not Plays. Meaning, you can scheme, plot, change, etc. But if you don't have the consistency of performance from the Players...none of it really matters, as then it becomes a guessing game, and hope/prayer/luck. 
    I think Cocu's approach is emulating Players, not Plays...and that's why I seem to be navigating the emotions of this season so well. But that's just me. I understand everybody may have a different approach. I just hope Cocu is as good as I think he his. Because if he is, then to paraphrase you...This could be a beautiful thing for the club. 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from jono in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    Thanks. And I think I'm hearing what you are saying as well. 
    It is frustrating to watch a system work one match and either not work the next, or get changed. Especially if the result or performance is poor. 
    I agree with you that results are a measure of short term success. Performance a measure of long term success. Which is why I am so enthralled with this season. 
    I was taught years ago; Players, not Plays. Meaning, you can scheme, plot, change, etc. But if you don't have the consistency of performance from the Players...none of it really matters, as then it becomes a guessing game, and hope/prayer/luck. 
    I think Cocu's approach is emulating Players, not Plays...and that's why I seem to be navigating the emotions of this season so well. But that's just me. I understand everybody may have a different approach. I just hope Cocu is as good as I think he his. Because if he is, then to paraphrase you...This could be a beautiful thing for the club. 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from Will Hughes Hair in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from Ramarena in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess my point of view is: just because Derby won, doesn’t mean Cocu found the right setup. It’s a win(and that’s good), but that can’t be the only metric in deciding a path forward. We saw a few wins last year that certainly shouldn't have been. Luck will always play a role in football...it just shouldn’t be the main goal.  
    I think Cocu is the first Manager in awhile willing to take chances in order to get some answers on the team. Folks may see that as tinkering or clueless(I guess). I see that as approaching this game with a plan. Hence, I’m excited to see where Cocus plan leads the team.
    Ive said it in other threads- I’ll be happy with a mid table finish this year, if it means Derby has found answers to build long term. To me that’s exciting. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from Richard Dastard Lee in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from Sasha in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from 48 hours in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from ColonelBlimp in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from Van De Squid in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from SKRam in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from IslandExile in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from LittleEatonRam in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from r_wilcockson in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from Jayram in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from The Orange Pimpernel in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny got a reaction from admira in v QPR (H) Match Thread   
    I guess I understand some supporters are feeling a bit raw at the team being mid table. As such I see a few of you questioning Cocu as if he’s failing? 
    Cocu is not failing...this team is not more then mid-table. That’s it. You ask what Cocus doing? Why he hasn’t settled in a formation or best 11? To me it’s fairly straight forward:
    This team has no best 11. Cocu is trying to figure who will be able to kick on longer term. He’s doing exactly what he, Mel, and everyone interviewed from the management team has said. 
    This is about building something long term. Not about hope and a prayer to rush promotion.
    Its damn refreshing actually. This is going to be a completely different team by end of year. One that will start showing a nucleus’s to build on. 
    To everyone that’s going to jump on me...yes, I want a Derby promotion, and will hope for victory every match day. But I am so very happy with what I am seeing from Cocu and crew. Youth coming through, attempts at finding best fit for the mess of players we have on our he list(Fozzy at CB? Fantastic!). 
    This is going to be an up/down season...but for the first time in a decade, it feels like Derby are actually trying to put something in place. Exciting times ahead lads! 
    coyr
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    Hanny reacted to Nuwtfly in Phillip Cocu interview with John Percy   
    “The ambition should be promotion, if we have a firm foundation and philosophy throughout the club. You need to have ambition and we will have to fight to get into the play-offs. 
    “If we don’t get there, it’s not a lost season. In football it is sometimes difficult to see the mid-term to the long-term because the short-term is so important.
    “Sometimes to make a really big step forward you have to invest some time, without losing your ambition.”
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    Hanny reacted to Millenniumram in Boro (H) Match Thread   
    For me, I’d go with the same team as last time out:
    Roos
    Bogle Davies Clarke Lowe
    Bielik Shinnie
    Holmes Dowell Lawrence 
    Martin
    Thought we put in a good performance and we’re unlucky to lose like we did, so it’s worth another try and home imo. Really is a game I’d hope we can battle a win out of this one, even if it’s not pretty- boro have been one of the worst teams in the league this year and have looked pretty bank at times. That said, we always struggle against them, so I guess a point wouldn’t be disaster. What we really want to see is that energy and fight though, to get in the boro players faces and battle for every ball. Need to show the rest of the squad is still up for the fight after this weeks events. Would be nice to see some defensive improvement as well in terms of actually closing players down rather than letting them do how they please, and ffs learning how to clear a cross properly! Need more support from the wingers in that respect than we got against hull, bogle and Lowe we’re often hung out to dry. Just hope we’ve got the pace at the back to deal with the opposition forwards as well, Davies and Clarke worry me but I don’t see many other options. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from KCG in Mid Table (19/20/21) - Please and Thank You   
    Just wanted to touch on the term progress. I think this is also a point where we view through different lenses. I think you are equating progress to a move up the table(which I partly agree with). I would be much more interested in seeing individual player progress over time, which then begets a move up the table. Of course it's not a 1-1 ratio. But I think it's a more measured approach then bringing in a bunch of new players and hoping they work out (which isn't what you're saying...but many do.
    I agree that challenging should be done, within reason. Derby should have the resources to trot out a challenging side, yet, something seems to get in the way. As this has happened year over year for some time, wouldn't you want to take a look at what might be changed in the process? I'm suggesting we take some time with Management/Philosophy (i.e. keeping Cocu around a few years), as a possible solution. I'm suggesting this, because Derby has not done this for some time. It my mind it may be the slight change to the cycle that can lift Derby from a top 8 team(always the brides maid) to that top 2.
    It seems you are advocating for Derby to do the same thing that's been done year over year, in so far as if they don't get promoted, slash it...bring in a bunch new players, new management, new direction; but they just need to do it better? Is that a fair assessment? 
    Pretty much same response I gave above. Save for one point. I say Derby have not been allowed to have a transition year. I think you are saying that by not getting promoted, and chopping/changing staff...that's called a transition year? Is that basically correct? 
    I think a transition year (which is different from what has been going on the last few years) involves more stability as opposed to chopping/changing. Those League One clubs that seem to fly past us, have been in forced stability/transition years for awhile by simply being in League One. I suggest we take those Derby resources and add some stability (which may include playing youngsters) which may prove some poor results, for the aim of producing a greater team in the end. 
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    Hanny got a reaction from IslandExile in Mid Table (19/20/21) - Please and Thank You   
    In reality the best way to broach this subject would be a live discussion to best get clarity on statements without the hinderance of time lapse response / poor typing / length of typing needed to get across simple ideas / etc. However here we are. 
    I’m unsure of what to expect from starting a topic that is more of an ongoing saga with numerous variables, as opposed to a one off pram-toy-toss argument over which Striker to start.
    I’m also busy in life, as you are, so will not be able to respond as often as I’d like. So I hope this can be a bit of a slow burn discussion over time.
    I guess my hope with this topic is to instill a little confidence, hope, and stability in a supporter base that seem to be teetering on the edge of a (for lack of a better term) breakdown of reality.
    Derby are, and should be a Mid-Table team for this year and next (make moves if need be to fight for promotion in the 21/22 season). I think letting Cocu sort the squad and tactics over (at least) two seasons is the bare minimum can be done to see if a plan can take hold. 
    What’s the harm in waiting if we are improving (which takes more time than a few months)? 
    I can hear some of you already rolling your eyes...we should always be pushing for promotion...We belong there! 
    Yes. I believe Derby would fit well in the Prem. But let’s do it with intention and understanding...not spray and pray.
    If we allow Cocu time to fail (because that’s what is needed to discover any plausible path forward), I postulate we will look comfortable to survive the Prem come the 22/23 season (assuming 21/22 is the push year).
    Now. It will take two years plus of hair pulling confusion games (not all games...but fail we must to see growth), and I hope you all can stomach that...I know I can.
    I will stop here on my first post. As I said, I hope this can become a slow burn discussion. I’ve opened with a very basic; we should give Cocu time and space to fail thesis. Let’s discuss why that would be good...or not good. Simples.
    COYR!
    P.S.: Of course as a supporter I will always be happy to take a flight up the table with a dramatic playoff screamer. But- would actually prefer intention and understanding.
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    Hanny got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Mid Table (19/20/21) - Please and Thank You   
    Just wanted to touch on the term progress. I think this is also a point where we view through different lenses. I think you are equating progress to a move up the table(which I partly agree with). I would be much more interested in seeing individual player progress over time, which then begets a move up the table. Of course it's not a 1-1 ratio. But I think it's a more measured approach then bringing in a bunch of new players and hoping they work out (which isn't what you're saying...but many do.
    I agree that challenging should be done, within reason. Derby should have the resources to trot out a challenging side, yet, something seems to get in the way. As this has happened year over year for some time, wouldn't you want to take a look at what might be changed in the process? I'm suggesting we take some time with Management/Philosophy (i.e. keeping Cocu around a few years), as a possible solution. I'm suggesting this, because Derby has not done this for some time. It my mind it may be the slight change to the cycle that can lift Derby from a top 8 team(always the brides maid) to that top 2.
    It seems you are advocating for Derby to do the same thing that's been done year over year, in so far as if they don't get promoted, slash it...bring in a bunch new players, new management, new direction; but they just need to do it better? Is that a fair assessment? 
    Pretty much same response I gave above. Save for one point. I say Derby have not been allowed to have a transition year. I think you are saying that by not getting promoted, and chopping/changing staff...that's called a transition year? Is that basically correct? 
    I think a transition year (which is different from what has been going on the last few years) involves more stability as opposed to chopping/changing. Those League One clubs that seem to fly past us, have been in forced stability/transition years for awhile by simply being in League One. I suggest we take those Derby resources and add some stability (which may include playing youngsters) which may prove some poor results, for the aim of producing a greater team in the end. 
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    Hanny reacted to LeedsCityRam in Mid Table (19/20/21) - Please and Thank You   
    Perhaps if we could keep a manager for longer than a year, they wouldn't need to be.
    McClaren>Clement>Pearson>McClaren>Rowett>Lampard and the massive swings in playing style between them have set the club back after Clough did the donkey work previous to that.
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    Hanny got a reaction from KCG in Mid Table (19/20/21) - Please and Thank You   
    I think your argument is fair. I would love to see this team challenge and build. But they haven't. My thinking is that it is in part because of a lack of stability in management/philosophy. The team seems to keep getting caught in that OneMorePiece theory of chopping and changing because we are so close every season. Part of my thinking is that when a team finds themselves around the playoff slots, they don't get to give ideas/players a try. You find yourself having to play someone like Huds (I like Huds...but he's not helping this team get to the Prem), and sticking to a system that fits your current best players (as opposed to maybe finding out if someone like Marriott can handle this level, but in a slightly different formation). 
    I also don't think mid table is dross. Perhaps this comes down to a fundemental difference in how we respectively enjoy football? I can enjoy a mid table season watching to see if someone like Homes/Marriott are up to the task, and stake a claim as a solid player, or really see if Lowe can carve out a starting spot. These things really won't happen if we are challenging...because they can't be counted on...you go with someone like Huds, or Wags/Martin; they are safer. But they aren't going to really move the needle in regards to propelling the team up. 
    Perhaps Homes/Marriott won't either...but we won't know if they don't have time. Like I said, I love watching football. The Story of it. The growth/regression of players abilities. The  challenges of a manager dealing with the real world issues that stem from players/life/circumstances. It's incredibly difficult(or lucky), to put a team together that has the talent/has the health/has the vision to get promotion. I enjoy watching the failures and successes. 
     
    P.S. I already feel like my responses are too long. Which was my original concern with starting this thread. Oh well. I will try to be as succinct as I am able. 
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