Macintosh

I'd much rather have loyal players. Too long I've seen people use this club and jump ship at the first sign of greener grass, only to fall flat on their face, but sometimes at our expense.
Stevie Mac did it with Newcastle, Lampard with Chelsea, Rooney after saying he would stay, a list of players too.
IMO Bielik is a great championship player. When fully fit, by far the best cdm in the league. But after we shelled out a hell of a lot of money for his services.. (regardless of whether he has control over that or not) he spent alot of the time here on the physio table... we get relegated, and he holds us to ransom to get a swift exit.
If a plumber turned up to your house, did a horrendous job and charged you a fortune, you'd expect them to fix it. 
I just expected more from Bielik as a person rather than a player, but as a player on his day, agreed he is quality. But he could of helped us when we needed him most.

Has he not f**ked off yet?
Bored of seeing his name now. Spent most of the time on our physio table whilst we paid his wage. He's got zero interest in playing for the club when in reality, we need him most, and he has the cheek to say he wants to move to the championship to play a higher standard of football (for sod all in comparison to what we paid for him) when we also wanted to play at a higher standard... but again, due to him being glued to the physio table, we didn't get what we wanted out of him... it happens like that sometimes. But to not want to help a club out that has done all the above for you, you can pack your bags and f*** off as far as I'm concerned you selfish bag of spuds.
Rant over. 
 
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An interesting article(s) regarding the transfer fee that differs from the [undisclosed] £8m we considered it to be. Not so says The Telegraph and this website, it's higher. Performance-related clauses could add another £2m. Playing in the World Cup in Qatar was probably one of those triggers. I think he made his international debut while with us and is now nearing 100 appearances. Knowing how bad we are at these things, there is probably a sell-on clause that Arsenal also get.
https://paininthearsenal.com/2021/10/04/arsenal-owed-8m-midfielder-sold-2019/#:~:text=Arsenal still owed £8m from Derby County for midfielder,full fee has been paid
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/10/01/arsenal-owed-8m-derby-krystian-bielik-club-step-search-new-owner/
 
https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/02/derby-county-owe-arsenal-8million-for-transfer-flop-signed-by-arsene-wenger-15352953/

He’s a good footballer. He’s determined, mobile and positive and doesn’t panic in possession. Sure, he’s not the best in attack but you’ve got a good player.
Where do you live? I’m a Bristol boy, just support a team 135 miles from home 😊

I think some aren't factoring in his age. He was a solid performer for us and should imho only get better. He's absolutely worth a punt on a free. I'd have had him back without a doubt and it sounds like our gaffer was of the same thinking. 

I remember a fair portion of fans on here in favour of the club going bust and starting in the lower divisions (I wasn't one of them), but except for paying a huge amount of money for our club and I am not a Clowes fan yet, I need persuading. I never was of the Americans either, nor Webb, or Gadsby. I was sad to see Rosenior pushed, and Wassall too, bemused by both decisions that have never been communicated to fans. I am so disappointed to see McGoldrick leave. I am reading into it that we would not offer him a two-year contact.
Not finding a sponsor and that awful shirt design too didn't thrill me. The January transfer window could not have been more disappointing. Money-wise David Clowes's personal wealth is around £250m, family-wise considerably more – on par with Gibson at Boro – so I will be disappointed if we don't spend something, a few bob, and show ambition to get out of this league asap. I'm hoping that to attract Warne he gave him promises that the cheque book would be dusted off. It's ages since we paid a fee for a player and that was £11,000 to Dungannon Swifts.

I remember a fair portion of fans on here in favour of the club going bust and starting in the lower divisions (I wasn't one of them), but except for paying a huge amount of money for our club and I am not a Clowes fan yet, I need persuading. I never was of the Americans either, nor Webb, or Gadsby. I was sad to see Rosenior pushed, and Wassall too, bemused by both decisions that have never been communicated to fans. I am so disappointed to see McGoldrick leave. I am reading into it that we would not offer him a two-year contact.
Not finding a sponsor and that awful shirt design too didn't thrill me. The January transfer window could not have been more disappointing. Money-wise David Clowes's personal wealth is around £250m, family-wise considerably more – on par with Gibson at Boro – so I will be disappointed if we don't spend something, a few bob, and show ambition to get out of this league asap. I'm hoping that to attract Warne he gave him promises that the cheque book would be dusted off. It's ages since we paid a fee for a player and that was £11,000 to Dungannon Swifts.

Just because he's about to turn 30?
He may not repeat the scoring feats of the last two seasons at his next club, but to state that he's on a downward trajectory when he's just had the 2 best seasons of his career and has earned himself a move to a bigger club...?
Players develop at different rates.
Steve Howard was 30 when we signed him for £1m, didn't do too badly!
Sheff Utd bought Billy Sharpe when he was 6 months off 30.

I remember a fair portion of fans on here in favour of the club going bust and starting in the lower divisions (I wasn't one of them), but except for paying a huge amount of money for our club and I am not a Clowes fan yet, I need persuading. I never was of the Americans either, nor Webb, or Gadsby. I was sad to see Rosenior pushed, and Wassall too, bemused by both decisions that have never been communicated to fans. I am so disappointed to see McGoldrick leave. I am reading into it that we would not offer him a two-year contact.
Not finding a sponsor and that awful shirt design too didn't thrill me. The January transfer window could not have been more disappointing. Money-wise David Clowes's personal wealth is around £250m, family-wise considerably more – on par with Gibson at Boro – so I will be disappointed if we don't spend something, a few bob, and show ambition to get out of this league asap. I'm hoping that to attract Warne he gave him promises that the cheque book would be dusted off. It's ages since we paid a fee for a player and that was £11,000 to Dungannon Swifts.

I remember a fair portion of fans on here in favour of the club going bust and starting in the lower divisions (I wasn't one of them), but except for paying a huge amount of money for our club and I am not a Clowes fan yet, I need persuading. I never was of the Americans either, nor Webb, or Gadsby. I was sad to see Rosenior pushed, and Wassall too, bemused by both decisions that have never been communicated to fans. I am so disappointed to see McGoldrick leave. I am reading into it that we would not offer him a two-year contact.
Not finding a sponsor and that awful shirt design too didn't thrill me. The January transfer window could not have been more disappointing. Money-wise David Clowes's personal wealth is around £250m, family-wise considerably more – on par with Gibson at Boro – so I will be disappointed if we don't spend something, a few bob, and show ambition to get out of this league asap. I'm hoping that to attract Warne he gave him promises that the cheque book would be dusted off. It's ages since we paid a fee for a player and that was £11,000 to Dungannon Swifts.

I remember a fair portion of fans on here in favour of the club going bust and starting in the lower divisions (I wasn't one of them), but except for paying a huge amount of money for our club and I am not a Clowes fan yet, I need persuading. I never was of the Americans either, nor Webb, or Gadsby. I was sad to see Rosenior pushed, and Wassall too, bemused by both decisions that have never been communicated to fans. I am so disappointed to see McGoldrick leave. I am reading into it that we would not offer him a two-year contact.
Not finding a sponsor and that awful shirt design too didn't thrill me. The January transfer window could not have been more disappointing. Money-wise David Clowes's personal wealth is around £250m, family-wise considerably more – on par with Gibson at Boro – so I will be disappointed if we don't spend something, a few bob, and show ambition to get out of this league asap. I'm hoping that to attract Warne he gave him promises that the cheque book would be dusted off. It's ages since we paid a fee for a player and that was £11,000 to Dungannon Swifts.

I'd have been happy if he could have scored 15 goals next season – that would have been a big ask. The downside was his home-to-away ratio, I think it ended up something like 20/5. Sad there is no farewell, just the Wednesday game as an au revoir to several, the bitter taste that left.
So far, so bad, Curtis Davies released, McGoldrick choosing Notts over us, Roberts off to Bristol, Knight having many suitors. I really don't want to read about Warne selling the club to potential players, what a great guy he is, that you get a free mug. That never worked in the last transfer window.

Three. Bali Mumba, Sam Cosgrove and Ryan Hardie. That's all I can name, and two of those aren't Plymouth's.

I know exactly what you're talking about, either they were full of poo or things changed at the last minute, but would have been interesting to hear if that was the case and the reasons for it.
I think the lack of people ITK is what we're truly missing, everyone is in the dark (not saying that's a bad thing, but less captivating). 

I can't remember the thread it was on, but there was someone who posted that his relative was going to sign for us in the window. He couldn't mention his name 'for obvious reasons', but when push came to shove he neither got named nor came here. 
 
These transfer links aren't half frustrating and the quality of players decreasing. Where are the rumours of Messi, Benzema and Ibrahimovic. I miss the Morris days and having to look on Wiki who the hell these players we are interested in are!

Didn't Liam explain that they met in a restaurant and had a very long chat, set out his vision and sold the club to Hourihane?

Didn't Liam explain that they met in a restaurant and had a very long chat, set out his vision and sold the club to Hourihane?

I'm only coming back here to defend Derek Hales. I prayed he was going to be a fantastic player for us and always remember the cup game against Blackpool, how he gave his all to win that game. Fans gave him a hard time here for his four goals in 23 games, £280,000 or maybe £333,333 transfer fee when all the national papers clamored for England to pick him and we went and signed him ahead of many others. He played best with a target man next to him, Flanagan was the example, we never did that. After selling him to West Ham for £110,000 he did okay for them, 10 goals in 24 games and had a career record of 187 goals in 443 games. He'd have done well if he'd had Jordan Hugill up front with him. So there you are, stop it, never mention his name again when trotting out those Billy Davies's signings and Jeff Beck. Chalk and cheese.
 
 
 

I'd be dead against it, unless Curtis wants to move. That lump Bolton had on loan from Southampton, Dan Nlundulu, he was winning every header, holding the ball up and even beating defenders – although it always came to nothing. However, Davies's knowhow sorted him, and Roberts/Forsyth were then winning the heading duels. He became anonymous in the second period and totally dominated by our defenders. That's something you can't buy, experience and knowledge. It had been sorted out in the dressing room at half-time and having Stearman (now more a coach), Chester, Smith, Davies and Forsyth to call on, that's our trump card. As much as some fans moan about the age of our squad, they are proving to be as fit as any 20-year-old from other teams.

I'd be dead against it, unless Curtis wants to move. That lump Bolton had on loan from Southampton, Dan Nlundulu, he was winning every header, holding the ball up and even beating defenders – although it always came to nothing. However, Davies's knowhow sorted him, and Roberts/Forsyth were then winning the heading duels. He became anonymous in the second period and totally dominated by our defenders. That's something you can't buy, experience and knowledge. It had been sorted out in the dressing room at half-time and having Stearman (now more a coach), Chester, Smith, Davies and Forsyth to call on, that's our trump card. As much as some fans moan about the age of our squad, they are proving to be as fit as any 20-year-old from other teams.

I'd be dead against it, unless Curtis wants to move. That lump Bolton had on loan from Southampton, Dan Nlundulu, he was winning every header, holding the ball up and even beating defenders – although it always came to nothing. However, Davies's knowhow sorted him, and Roberts/Forsyth were then winning the heading duels. He became anonymous in the second period and totally dominated by our defenders. That's something you can't buy, experience and knowledge. It had been sorted out in the dressing room at half-time and having Stearman (now more a coach), Chester, Smith, Davies and Forsyth to call on, that's our trump card. As much as some fans moan about the age of our squad, they are proving to be as fit as any 20-year-old from other teams.

I'd be dead against it, unless Curtis wants to move. That lump Bolton had on loan from Southampton, Dan Nlundulu, he was winning every header, holding the ball up and even beating defenders – although it always came to nothing. However, Davies's knowhow sorted him, and Roberts/Forsyth were then winning the heading duels. He became anonymous in the second period and totally dominated by our defenders. That's something you can't buy, experience and knowledge. It had been sorted out in the dressing room at half-time and having Stearman (now more a coach), Chester, Smith, Davies and Forsyth to call on, that's our trump card. As much as some fans moan about the age of our squad, they are proving to be as fit as any 20-year-old from other teams.

I'd be dead against it, unless Curtis wants to move. That lump Bolton had on loan from Southampton, Dan Nlundulu, he was winning every header, holding the ball up and even beating defenders – although it always came to nothing. However, Davies's knowhow sorted him, and Roberts/Forsyth were then winning the heading duels. He became anonymous in the second period and totally dominated by our defenders. That's something you can't buy, experience and knowledge. It had been sorted out in the dressing room at half-time and having Stearman (now more a coach), Chester, Smith, Davies and Forsyth to call on, that's our trump card. As much as some fans moan about the age of our squad, they are proving to be as fit as any 20-year-old from other teams.

I'd be dead against it, unless Curtis wants to move. That lump Bolton had on loan from Southampton, Dan Nlundulu, he was winning every header, holding the ball up and even beating defenders – although it always came to nothing. However, Davies's knowhow sorted him, and Roberts/Forsyth were then winning the heading duels. He became anonymous in the second period and totally dominated by our defenders. That's something you can't buy, experience and knowledge. It had been sorted out in the dressing room at half-time and having Stearman (now more a coach), Chester, Smith, Davies and Forsyth to call on, that's our trump card. As much as some fans moan about the age of our squad, they are proving to be as fit as any 20-year-old from other teams.

I'm only coming back here to defend Derek Hales. I prayed he was going to be a fantastic player for us and always remember the cup game against Blackpool, how he gave his all to win that game. Fans gave him a hard time here for his four goals in 23 games, £280,000 or maybe £333,333 transfer fee when all the national papers clamored for England to pick him and we went and signed him ahead of many others. He played best with a target man next to him, Flanagan was the example, we never did that. After selling him to West Ham for £110,000 he did okay for them, 10 goals in 24 games and had a career record of 187 goals in 443 games. He'd have done well if he'd had Jordan Hugill up front with him. So there you are, stop it, never mention his name again when trotting out those Billy Davies's signings and Jeff Beck. Chalk and cheese.