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jeez - is there anything that folk on here won't moan about.......?

jeez - is there anything that folk on here won't moan about.......?

jeez - is there anything that folk on here won't moan about.......?

You can only sell a player if there is genuine interest in the player at a price that makes it worthwhile - he's hardly pulled up any trees while he's been here and he's also shown the world that he has off-field issues that he struggles to cope with. Maybe the bid (if there really was a bid) was so low that the club decided it made more sense to hang onto him (particularly as we were already under an embargo that may have made replacing him almost impossible.....)

I like, and am intrigued, by your precision. What is Lawrence’s salary, and the Club’s wage bill, and where have your figures come from?  Hard to believe from me I know, but this is a genuine question.

They've gone out of their way to find thick ex-players to make controversial statements in order to generate clicks and additional listeners - and it's quite clearly working....it's a shame because they could be so much better
O'Hara probably needs help tying how own shoelaces; I've yet to see reports of Gabby Agbonlahor saying anything that wasn't complete and utter cobblers; and Cundy has a mis-spelt surname.....

Actually there’s one thing that the majority who have voted for Ashley want and that’s a future for Derby County- all the other things you mention are ‘nice to haves’ for a club in a far better position than we find ourselves…..

Hadn’t the EFL been demanding assurances from Mel that he would be able to fund the club through till the end of the season? Suggests they thought he may have been struggling to pay rather than just getting bored of paying…..

What a brilliant idea. We can all hold our heads up high as our club disappears down the khazi.
 

Not at all - my view is that the appeal will be saying that we were impacted by covid to an extent that we were unable to continue to operate as a going concern - they will say the loan would have allowed us to continue to operate and that ALL of the other Chamionship clubs got that money (hence why we're in admin and no-one else is....). The fact that we couldn't get the loan because the EFL laid down rules that we couldn't meet (potentally because of the protracted appeals process that the EFL oversaw) is a minor part of the argument.
The key part is that the loan would have allowed us to trade through the covid storm - without it we were tipped over the edge and therefore can legitimately claim that we were excessively impacted by covid. All we need to do is prove that covid was the reason we went under - the underlying reasons why we were sailing so close to the edge are irrelevant if we could have continued to trade without covid impacting us (or alternatively if we'd had the extra fiunding that the other clubs had to help keep us afloat)

The thing is that it's not really a loophole - the clause is there to make allowances for unprecedented things impacting a club's ability to operate - they don't come much more unprecedented than a global pandemic that has killed millions and caused football matches to be played witthout crowds for over 12 months.....

Which is almost certainly why the statement released when we went into admin pointed out that we were the ONLY Championship club not to be granted the £8M+ loan to help deal with the impact of covid (thereby meaning we were more susceptible to the effects) - and also explains why the EFL are now back-tracking on their original statement that we didn't qualify for the money (due to the criteria that they set out) but rather that we didn't apply for it (more than likely because they told us in advance that we wouldn't get it).
The hows and why's of the loan are actually irrelevant though - the fact that we didn't get the money makes us an exceptional case and gives us grounds to appeal....

The thing is that it's not really a loophole - the clause is there to make allowances for unprecedented things impacting a club's ability to operate - they don't come much more unprecedented than a global pandemic that has killed millions and caused football matches to be played witthout crowds for over 12 months.....

The thing is that it's not really a loophole - the clause is there to make allowances for unprecedented things impacting a club's ability to operate - they don't come much more unprecedented than a global pandemic that has killed millions and caused football matches to be played witthout crowds for over 12 months.....

Which is almost certainly why the statement released when we went into admin pointed out that we were the ONLY Championship club not to be granted the £8M+ loan to help deal with the impact of covid (thereby meaning we were more susceptible to the effects) - and also explains why the EFL are now back-tracking on their original statement that we didn't qualify for the money (due to the criteria that they set out) but rather that we didn't apply for it (more than likely because they told us in advance that we wouldn't get it).
The hows and why's of the loan are actually irrelevant though - the fact that we didn't get the money makes us an exceptional case and gives us grounds to appeal....

The thing is that it's not really a loophole - the clause is there to make allowances for unprecedented things impacting a club's ability to operate - they don't come much more unprecedented than a global pandemic that has killed millions and caused football matches to be played witthout crowds for over 12 months.....

Which is almost certainly why the statement released when we went into admin pointed out that we were the ONLY Championship club not to be granted the £8M+ loan to help deal with the impact of covid (thereby meaning we were more susceptible to the effects) - and also explains why the EFL are now back-tracking on their original statement that we didn't qualify for the money (due to the criteria that they set out) but rather that we didn't apply for it (more than likely because they told us in advance that we wouldn't get it).
The hows and why's of the loan are actually irrelevant though - the fact that we didn't get the money makes us an exceptional case and gives us grounds to appeal....

Which is almost certainly why the statement released when we went into admin pointed out that we were the ONLY Championship club not to be granted the £8M+ loan to help deal with the impact of covid (thereby meaning we were more susceptible to the effects) - and also explains why the EFL are now back-tracking on their original statement that we didn't qualify for the money (due to the criteria that they set out) but rather that we didn't apply for it (more than likely because they told us in advance that we wouldn't get it).
The hows and why's of the loan are actually irrelevant though - the fact that we didn't get the money makes us an exceptional case and gives us grounds to appeal....

I think they should only sell internal fireworks - and yes that was a suggestion of where you can stick your rockets.....

Which is almost certainly why the statement released when we went into admin pointed out that we were the ONLY Championship club not to be granted the £8M+ loan to help deal with the impact of covid (thereby meaning we were more susceptible to the effects) - and also explains why the EFL are now back-tracking on their original statement that we didn't qualify for the money (due to the criteria that they set out) but rather that we didn't apply for it (more than likely because they told us in advance that we wouldn't get it).
The hows and why's of the loan are actually irrelevant though - the fact that we didn't get the money makes us an exceptional case and gives us grounds to appeal....

Which is almost certainly why the statement released when we went into admin pointed out that we were the ONLY Championship club not to be granted the £8M+ loan to help deal with the impact of covid (thereby meaning we were more susceptible to the effects) - and also explains why the EFL are now back-tracking on their original statement that we didn't qualify for the money (due to the criteria that they set out) but rather that we didn't apply for it (more than likely because they told us in advance that we wouldn't get it).
The hows and why's of the loan are actually irrelevant though - the fact that we didn't get the money makes us an exceptional case and gives us grounds to appeal....

yet....?

Actually there’s one thing that the majority who have voted for Ashley want and that’s a future for Derby County- all the other things you mention are ‘nice to haves’ for a club in a far better position than we find ourselves…..

I think they should only sell internal fireworks - and yes that was a suggestion of where you can stick your rockets.....

He did when he fell/jumped off it