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I saw on twitter someone said we'd have been better bringing on Joan Collins!  Must admit it made me chuckle 

just got back from the match, its important not to go over board. however it was a stinker, especially first half.
They worked us out and put pressure on our full backs, that meant our midfielders dropped deeper so were not there for the second balls when we went forward.
I have listened to Paul Warne. I accept his points about ditzy and Knight not having trained for a week hence why they didn't start. I do not understand why we changed the back four. Fozzy has been doing well all season alongside Cashin, so why change it, this meant 50% of the back 4 changed, not good.
I like Cashin but he needs to work out when to put it into row z and when and how far to take the ball into the midfield, they targeted him today and caught his a few times.
I thought Roberts and Dobbin looked good when they came on.
They deserved their victory and we never looked like scoring.
First home defeat in months, we are heading in the right direction, it's inevitable that we will have bumps on the way. Still think we will be in the playoffs and think we will make Wembley 
keep the faith
 
 

Pretty much like this thread.
Opinion very much polarised - and entirely predictable.

It's a good point - is this criticism because of him bringing the BBC into disrepute? Is he displaying intolerance, hatred, bigotry or inciting violence against anyone? 
Or are his critics upset because he doesn't say things that they agree with? 

Thing is, I don't think anyone would have any complaints with this.
Game after game, running directly after each other with a graphic between. More highlights less punditry where they get to watch a foul on 25 angles before calling the ref a disgrace.

There are fine people on both sides of the debate.

Does that mean I can insist the electrician I hired last week to do a job on my house doesn't talk politics down the pub in case people overhear him and think I endorse his beliefs? Ergo?

You're right, but what he will have is a contract, hence my opening post, if he's broken it, bin him off. If not, let him crack on.

Well I for one won’t bother tuning into it tomorrow.  I think the whole thing stinks.  Especially when you think that supposed hardened journalists like Fiona Bruce & Laura Kussenberg have been giving The Tories an easy ride for years, and as for Andrew Neil… 
I bet all these bitter & twisted gammons, clutching at their pearls, demanding he was taken off the air, were dancing in the streets when he slotted in the equaliser against Germany at Italia 90.  Hypocrites…

Some insight and analysis from the ITV Political Editor.

Yes. 
I don't watch match of the day very often. I used to, years ago. 
Generally, I'd be more likely to watch it, if there was no presenter, and no pundits. No studio. Just highlights, and if required, a voice over person, saying which match is next etc. 

Here's a random idea - let's just have a MOTD with just football.  No chat, no presenters, maybe no commentators either.  Just footie that we can make our own minds on what's good/bad, right or wrong.  You never know we might be able to have more actual football to fill the available time

The thing is the Beeb have backed themselves into a corner here. Lineker won't apologise. So the options are to sack him or back down. 
Neither option looks great for the Beeb.
This incident is no so big that it will have been escalated to the BBC Chairman to manage - the man who helped arrange an £800,000 loan for the PM and who personally donated 400k (yes 400k!) to the Tory party. 

I don't really get it. The BBC decided it was fine to broadcast an expose of the Qatari government's violations of the human rights of migrant workers instead of broadcasting the opening ceremony of the World Cup last year, but Lineker raising concerns that our own government's policies violate the human rights of migrants on his own channels isn't fine? I can't really reconcile that.

Not watched MOTD regularly for years it’s too much about the presenters today and not enough about the football.
Would be sorry to see Ian Wright go especially for the respect he shows to Mr Pigden.
 
It’s one of my all time favourite YouTube videos.
 

That's a fair point. Of course no one wants to be associated with someone who would discriminate based solely on race, but "perceived racist" is worryingly vague to me. All of this is very subjective and what pushes me towards free speech absolutism is that often the people tasked with judging these cases don't seem to make very sensible decisions. Lineker's case is a great example. As much as I dislike the guy the fact that he's been stepped down from his job because he disagreed publicly with a government position is quite frightening.

I hope tomorrow's show concentrates on, and praises exclusively, the contributions of right wingers to the games. 
That'll get the Tories back on side.

Not that important. If anyone was to stop watching a football programme over one man's political views, wouldn't be a huge lost. Let's be honest, it would take a mass exodus to have any serious impact.
It's all on par with the kids today that scream "you've lost my respect" soon as someone does or says something they don't like.
The sooner companies stop pandering to the cancel culture on both sides the better. 

He's paid to talk about football. I don't see why anything he says outside of MOTD should matter when it comes to presenting a football highlights show. It was the same with the awful treatment Le Tissier got from Sky. It baffles me that companies now seem to believe they can and should dictate what their employees say and think away from work.

Without turning this into another left v right borefest, Gary Lineker is stepping back from his presenting duties on MOTD following the Nazi tweet.
I'm not entirely sure why there is so much controversy, comes down to this for me, if it's within his contract to abide by impartiality rules and refrain from taking sides on politic issues, that is a breach of contract, sack him.
If there is nothing in the contract preventing him, let the bloke crack on.
Many people face certain rules when it comes to social media, I know of two women that work within child services for North East Lincolnshire Council, they are not allowed to have profiles with their full names so have opted for first and middle names only. It's in the employment terms they agreed to.
 

I wouldn't overcomplicate things. I'd have just brought on an extra midfielder for a winger as soon as I saw what was happening on the pitch. Probably Tommo, we just needed an extra ratter in there to intercept their pretty passes and keep the ball by passing to the next man.  Rooney would have done  too, push Smith back up into midfield. 
As many have said, Mendez-Laing did nothing second half - he hardly ever saw the ball.
We play better when we're short passing and retaining possession.  Everyone criticises Bird for this but it's what keeps us starting new attacks. 
The Hollywood passes are great when they come off but they get less and less likely as the game progresses.

Strongly agree about Smith. But whilst he looks very good in possession I’m not sure Rooney yet has the defensive skills to face up to a top team. Against the Shrews there were occasions where his positional radar was naively faulty and surprisingly Fozzie is faster than he is in a straight line. I think the best for this squad is to add Davies or Chester at the back, play Knight and Smith as defensive midfielders, sit deeper, try to win more games 1-0 and accept we’ll win fewer 4-0.  Against the top teams at least. We break well with NML, Barks and Dobbin and as we saw yesterday Didzie for one will find the magic ball that slices a defence apart. 

Can't agree with this. Both against Shrewsbury and Plymouth we played really well first half. We went off after 45 in both games having played really very well. What we have failed to do in both matches is properly adjust to the opposition's change of tactic and tempo early in the second half. That might be partly a player fall-off issue, perhaps some tiredness in the legs, but I think we are being too slow in re-grouping, refreshing, changing our team up to negate the opposition's revised tactics.  We can get top 6. Still think we will. But the coaches need to start earning their bucks. Handing out coffee mugs and instructing them to run faster/harder is not sufficient.