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1Wildsmith  6.

24Nyambe 6.5  Solid. Defensive nous and consistency.

23Ward  6 Keen to make an impact. One peach of a cross,  some poor ones from too deep.

35Nelson 7 Calm, assured and reads the game well.

5Bradley 6.5 Good passing, decent heading. Wasn't pressed or put under too much pressure, but what he had to do he did decisively. Lost half a mark fir nearly gifting them a goal with a sloppy backpass. Doesn't seem powerful or aggressive/tenacious somehow, hope he's got that in him if needed.

3Forsyth 6.5 Good passing and crossing. Key player for us.

4Hourihane 6.5 One great assist, some nice crossing but generally seems to slow us down.

22Fornah 6.5 crisp passing, tidy feet in tight spaces, good touches, helped us keep possession. I prefer him over smith and hourihane.

12Smith 6 Some decent passing, but as for Hourihane can't help but feel he weakens the midfield.  Don't like them together as it looks ponderous and powerless.

7Barkhuizen 6.5 Love him in the team in this formation, pacy, good feet, great assist and great ball in to Washington first half. Missed a chance and I really felt for him.  Needs to feel loved I think.  loses half a mark for the chuckle brothers routine with Collins when in a great position he passes to him when clearly offside instead of going himself. Embarrassing.

8Bird 🦅 8 2 great goals, the second a wonderful first time finish, great technique. Could he be the one example of a player improved under this management? 

39Brown 6 no time to assess 

11Méndez-Laing 7.5 some great passing and skill. Great first time finish. Look sharp and dynamic.

16Wilson 6 OK.needs an assist or goal to boost confidence. I sense he is still trying to find his own rhythm and get in synch with team mates. Bizarre to see him and ward down the right. Won't happen too often.

14Washington 7.5 Great assist, great goal. Looks sharp, strong and takes the ball well. Makes such a difference to have movement and mobility up there. Should get an extended run now.

9Collins 6. Usual stroppy cameo. Missed a good headed chance. Did a good piece of link up. Also him and Barks are developing as a comedy duo of sorts. Stop it.

ATG.

I read this as Clowes not having having a knee jerk reaction to fans anger. Things have turned ugly in recent weeks but he's not going to let that dictate his decision making yet. Sounds courageous and wise. Have our fan base been conditioned by years of Mel Morris impulsiveness? Quite possibly. A lot of comments on here sound like threats of toxic atmosphere should be driving change. 

Clowes has repeatedly told us his values and so this response should surprise noone.

So, we've got problems atm and perhaps we're trying to work through them rather than tearing everything up. I'm rather proud that he is not treating employees with total contempt.

I'm concerned of course like most, but it's not necessarily naivety or wilfull blindness to show support to a manager when things get tough.

13 minutes ago, Rammy03 said:

 

No point in that for either side. 😕 

2 hours ago, BaaLocks said:

Wrote this in The Times yesterday:

"Because it is all I think about, obviously. That and how the only reason it isn’t my son with his little throat cut by Hamas or my 12-year-old daughter being . . . well, I can’t write those words . . . is that when my grandparents fled the Nazis under cover of night, leaving parents and relatives behind to die by gun and gas and typhus, they were lucky enough to end up in Derby rather than Hebron. 

Should I be writing about that? Would that help? Because I would find it almost impossible not to make a joke about what a craphole Derby is (it really is, there’s no point writing it) and how Grandma and Grandpa finally ended up in Stanmore, which is not a lot better, but is at least on the Bakerloo Line. I think it’s fine to joke, even now. I think that’s what people, and more especially Jews, do when the darkness falls (as it falls so often for us)."

Obviously, I think the bit about the current situation in Israel is off limits for this forum but I'd be interested the last time he's been to Derby and why he finds it such a great point of amusement to call it a craphole. Always was a bit of a twonk, despite having a wonderful father and sister, so I guess not much more to expect but still.

For me, Derby is a craphole. It has become worse over time. The city centre is ugly apart from one small area the cathedral quarter and sadler gate. Outside of this is dreary, with either a despairing or aggressive atmosphere. The theatre is in an all but abandoned part of an indoor shopping centre. The assembly rooms stands empty on the edge of the most boring and featureless market place. There are hardly any decent restaurants, few independent shops and derbion is soulless. We've not opened up the river in a pleasant way and the river gardens are not safe. We blocked the view of St Mary's Church from some approaches with a ghastly hotel.  It is badly planned and increasingly barren.  All that is being built are apartments and university buildings that dont seem sustainable.  There is little to do there.  It looks like a town in recession. Its in a hideous spiral of decline. Sadly, I'd prefer to be in almost any other city. For me, its only saving graces are DCFC, its proximity to the  Derbyshire countryside and the people i love. So, in your view, why isn't it a craphole? 

1Wildsmith 6.5

24Nyambe 7.5

35Nelson 7.5

6Cashin 8.5

2Wilson 6

Bradley 7

12Smith 9

8Bird 🦅 7

Hourihane 6

22Fornah 8.

Sibley 6

3Forsyth 7

9Collins 7.5

10Waghorn 7

11Méndez-Laing 7.5

7Barkhuizen 8

TV   

Stunning performance. Waggy starts the bounce!

Fornah terrific burst forward and pass. Love him.

1Wildsmith 6.5 As he said in the post match, kept his concentration.

24Nyambe 7.5 It's such a relief when we have a corner that he is the covering man rather than Smith.  The only defender with pace but he has the strength, tenacity and nous to go with it.  Pleasantly surprised by his attacking link ups too. Exactly what we needed. Please stay.

35Nelson 7.5 Imperious in the air. Comfortable on the ball. He even strode forward with purpose once in the second half which was promising. 

6Cashin 7 Decent all action stuff. Gets given a lot of responsibility to start moves and mostly did well with that but not quite his best passing.

3Forsyth 7  Good link up with Barks in first half. Solid, decent performance. He's remarkably consistent.

Wilson 6  Needed to be on much earlier for NML as he would have caused chaos and opened them up in a different way. Lack of courage from Warne here?

12Smith 6  Does simple stuff but again, I felt if Bird came on earlier for him and moved further, leaving Fornah to mop up might have helped.

Bird 🦅 6 Welcome back son.

22Fornah 7.5  Classy, streetwise shift. Tales care of the ball in tight areas well and does the ugly stuff well too, actually getting his foot in rather than wafting after the fact which most of our other midfielders seem to do.  Didn't drive forward running with ball which he said he liked to do. Maybe following instructions and keeping discipline, but doing this may have provided more variety to our attacks.

11Méndez-Laing 7 6.5 Huge effort. Some decent crosses but noone there. Bad miss/decision early on. Lacking confidence compared to last season.

10Waghorn 5.5 can't recall much impact. Unlucky with header.

Washington 6 Too little time to have impact.

7Barkhuizen 6.5 Like his wing play and cut backs, just noone there. Good shift.

Sibley 6 One decent corner but a few fluffed set pieces.  Needed more time on pitch.

9Collins 5.5 Again decent effort defensively and chasing down, just never quite linking with crosses.

ATG

Just now, Hoppo said:

Wilson for Waghorn. Looks like we're shoring up the defence and digging in for the next half hour!

 

Wilson is an attacking player.

1 minute ago, Ellafella said:

They’re getting through us on the break so shape is wrong. All right sided. 

Let's hope they've you're footie nous and sort it!

1 minute ago, Ellafella said:

I wouldn’t say we’re bossing it. Clear pen for them and they’ve hit woodwork twice. We’re very vulnerable down the middle.

Why are we vulnerable there do you think? 2 dcms!

Just now, DavesaRam said:

Wilson man of the match but struggling with a strain at the last moment! Fornah as well.

Dear God no. Why aren't we more cautious, especially with Wilson? 

5 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

Our lack of pace at the back regardless of who plays is frightening at times. Lincoln were countering and Cashin looked like he was running in treacle, I know he’s not horribly slow but he looked it then.

He is horribly slow. But I agree with the main point.

We need to be bashing the Bishop more.

47 minutes ago, TuffLuff said:

Sorry had a hectic few days so haven’t had chance to get back to Leo’s. I’ve been thinking that you could rework The Derby Ram and make it work for the stands. For example:

If you go down to Derby, on a Saturday 
You can see 30,000 marching along the pride parkway

and indeed me lad it’s true me lad I’ve never be known to lie, if you’d been down to Derby you’d seen the same as I

That could work. But the original, without the context of the verse, is vague and mysterious. There's space fir people to project their own meaning, so it's not too literal. The more I hear it, the more I like it. Verses too! It would be so wierd and uniquely ours without trying too hard, just revelling in our heritage. It's magic, I'd actually be proud to sing it.  Make it so!

https://open.spotify.com/track/1UuotwszQkTo1d7EmY1gzT?si=jROMsCUpSAuR-qvFHAJvMg

Not much unless we know the reasons why. It tells us we may another big rebuild. Beyond that don't know, what is behind your question?

34 minutes ago, TuffLuff said:

I know some won’t be too bothered about stuff like this, but it’s the international break and nothing else is happening so bugger it. 

For whatever reason, and one I don’t really want to go into now, but I do think we lost a lot of our heritage, community and identity during the Mel era, especially in how the club fits into the city and the surrounding county.

I think a lot has happened from the march onwards to get some of that back but I do think we could go further. It’s one aspect I actually think Notts Forest has done well in, by making its fans feel part of the club and part of its history (sorry I won’t mention them again now).

One thing I’d love us to do is to connect our local folk songs into the club, not necessarily through chants although The Derby Ram and King Of Rome could work pregame at the very least but even if the club used them a bit rather than the generic bleeping blip music it tends to go for. I thinks there’s an opportunity to do something really cool and give us a link to our history and our culture through songs.

Not really expecting this to go anywhere, just hope someone picks it up as an idea and tries to do something with it. Like I say it’s international break, what else is there to discuss?

I can definitely hear tbe chorus of the derby Rams resonating through the stands. Stirring stuff and I hate folk music! Certainly more interesting and rousing than that bloody poem and SBW. I agree we need to make more of tbe rich heritage which runs deeper than the forced clichés like its in yer dna youth etc.

20 minutes ago, Diego said:

Long gone are the days when the DET break anything or are seriously ITK.

Very true, but is Curtis known for making such definitive statements and being shown to be wrong? 

12 minutes ago, The_Sheriff said:

I dont get how according to big trav a few weeks ago we didnt have a pot to piss in and now we can buy JCH who will cost a 7 figure fee

The potential sale of Cashin has made funds available?

9 minutes ago, Jram said:

This was my thinking. Warne talked a lot about running and sprinting in pre-season and being relentless in the press.

Watching JCH on Saturday, he barely seemed to move. Obviously, I haven’t seen his stats and he might have covered 14km but I tend to doubt it 

Interesting point, although this could be due to the way he is asked to play, rather than his ability and willingness to do so. It could be a concern or a reason that Warne may not actually be looking to sign him. Obviously BigTrav's comments suggest otherwise.

1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said:

I see your point and I'm going to swerve it because, in my opinion, what this team needs to get out of this league is someone clinical up top who has done it in this league. I don't think any of our current forwards offer that at the moment. I'm not so much concerned with what other teams did/didn't do, just on what our current sides needs.

Agreed. It's not as if we haven't improved (or tried to) all areas of the team, for the sake of a star signing. This does not look like a Bielik-style wreckless punt, because we have already brought in 9 players and there is a better balance in the squad.

To be top 2 we need to increase our chances of scoring regularly and this move increases that probability.

If it relies on the Cashin money, we need to have a replacement and if they are similarly tenacious but more mobile, that could improve us there too. 

However, if we lose out on JCH ( surely a championship club would be in), it will be interesting to see who is next on the list.

1 hour ago, Poynton ram said:

With no mid week game and the transfer window about to close I am assuming Warne has been watching potential new recruits playing in the EFL cup this week. Any sightings?

Thanks Poynton, by creating this thread you've given us a real fecal point for the next 2 days.