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13 minutes ago, Gabby'sThighs said:

I don't get all this chat about Cashin's pace. He does okay over short distances - which is where it counts - but his positioning, anticipation, and tackling ability are what make him a good defender. Some of the best CBs - Maldini, Vidic, Terry - weren't especially quick. On a slight tangent, when the likes of Harry Maguire get criticised for being slow, it's more that he often doesn't anticipate where the ball will be, is facing the wrong way, and gets dragged into poor positions. Cashin doesn't do that.

I'd love him to stay but totally understand if he left. He has the potential to be a PL player and that's unlikely to happen at Derby...

Wash your mouth out!!😅Maldini is arguably one of the best defenders in the game's history  and,one of the quickest.

" Paolo Maldini, the legendary Italian footballer who spent the majority of his career with AC Milan, is widely regarded as one of the greatest defenders in the history of the sport. His versatility allowed him to excel in both the left-back and center-back positions over the course of his long and illustrious career.

Left Back (Earlier Career): In the early stages of his career, Maldini primarily played as a left-back. He was known for his exceptional speed, agility, and ability to contribute to both defense and attack from the left flank. Maldini's technical skills and defensive prowess made him one of the best left-backs in the world during this period.

Center Back (Later Career): As he aged, Maldini transitioned to playing as a center-back. Despite the change in position, he continued to excel. His experience, football intelligence, and reading of the game allowed him to adapt seamlessly to the demands of central defense. Maldini's leadership and composure at the back were instrumental in Milan's successes during this period.

34 minutes ago, richinspain said:

I didn't say that I thought that he was as good as Todd, or even that he ever will be, only that his style reminds me so much of Colin Todd. Todd wasn't very tall either but still won more than his fair share of headers. Todd was faster than Cashin that's for sure, and also read the game faster than most mortals. There are many central defenders that would be in my all time Derby team ahead of Cashin having started watching them in the mid to late sixties, but that doesn't mean I can't compare two player's styles . You only picked me up on the Todd reference. Do you agree with the rest of my post?

Yes ,I do and you're one of the posters I usually agree with most ! Totally agree with your comment re the tiredness of the central defenders after the recent punishing schedule.Looking forward to the rest of this season and trying to temper my enthusiasm as you know what it's like being a Derby fan.As someone once said,"it's the hope that kills you!"

3 hours ago, richinspain said:

I agree 100% with the bits in bold. I don't agree with any of the rest though. What I saw was two very tired defenders going for the same ball in the 90th minute. They had both played every single minute of the four games in 11 days.

I haven't seen any actual stats, but hopefully someone can confirm that he loses far fewer defensive aerial battles than he wins. Lack of height is not a problem because of the leap that he has got. As for pace, I've not seen anyone leave him in their wake. He's been likened many times, but he really does remind of Colin Todd.

I do respect everyone's right to an opinion but I do feel that comparison is a tad OTT! If I was picking my all time Derby side ,having followed them since 1964, then my three central defenders would be Todd,Stimac and McFarland.I like Cashin's determination but Todd was light years ahead of him.However,each to their own.

I love his passion and whole hearted commitment but when you watch Peterborough's winner again you'll see he got in Nelson's way and back headed it to their centre forward.His lack of height and genuine pace will stop him making the top grade I feel but there's a decent Championship defender in there.Happy to build our defence around him at this level.

Is Nyambe back soon?🙏

Get in!!!!!!!!

21 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said:

My hair looks like Moses parted it. What does that make me, apart from bald? 

Do what Moses did and keep taking the tablets!

Not a massive fan of Fozzy but I think Wildsmith was a bit rooted to his line as that cross came in

8 hours ago, Jourdan said:

I have to echo the comments of @BramcoteRam84.

To win back the fanbase, Warne needs a sustained run of positive results and performances to return the feel good factor. I am not sure the fanbase will tolerate many more showings like we saw on Saturday. It’s reached Hail Mary territory.

However it’s hard to know where he stands with Clowes as we don’t know their relationship and what expectations have been laid out. It might be the case that Clowes anticipated some bumps in the road. Given the cost of a managerial change can be thousands if not millions, maybe he will let things play out longer to ‘protect his investment’. We know if it was Mel, he would have been sacked weeks ago. 

What I am struggling with is who comes next. It’s not an easy job to walk into. It’s a squad with signings from two different managers, a squad plagued by inconsistency and weighed down by expectation, a squad with very few players secured on long term contracts, and a club that is still in recovery from administration and without the financial flexibility of years gone by.

The idea of a young, up-and-coming, progressive manager with the right principles seems to appeal to many. However I do think people underestimate the level of backing needed for such an appointment to work and whether our patience would really last if there were mixed results.

People want to point to the good jobs being done by Kieran McKenna at Ipswich and Rosenior at Hull as to why a good coach with the right principles is the way forward, yet both of them have needed significant investment in the playing side to accelerate matters.

Yes, we might be able to get a better coach in than Warne but good coaches also need good players. I just don’t know that our squad is really as good as people imagine and whether our financial position will allow us to bring in the players needed to make the favoured style work.

Spot on !! 👏👏

13 hours ago, mwram1973 said:

I don't think for one minute that this squad should be walking this league. But, on paper ( and all the hype around Cashin, bird and Sibs etc) we should at least be in the top 6 and pushing the top 2.

 

2 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Warne also said that he wanted to create a team the fans find exciting, that go out to try and win every match. I'm starting to think that what he says and reality are two very different things.

It's Politics for him then!

3 minutes ago, Tombo said:

I'm still very much Warne Out but I must say it's a bit harsh to say this was a routine win because how exactly is one supposed to impress if we beat the teams we're supposed to beat, which in fans minds is most of the division? The coaches are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I think we have to enjoy the win and realise you can only beat what's in front of you and tonight we did beat them.

Long term I don't have the confidence but tonight we did the business.

I could speak for hours about what this tells us about the squad, the coaching team, the fans, the style of play, how we are better when we get it on the floor now and again rather than out wide and cross into an empty box, how we should line up in future, how poor Exeter were etc etc

But that's not important right now so I won't go into it

Always thought Rooney was an outstanding player but got mixed feelings on his ability as a manager.Players must have been lifted and motivated by his reputation within the game but I think Rosenior played a major role in coaching and organising the team. If Cashin and Bird were to leave in January I think the combined fees wouldn't reach £4m despite the views of many fans and,in all honesty,I'd rather we did all we can to get Thompson to sign a new deal.

35 minutes ago, Jayram said:

Bloody hell that is depressing thought, our beloved football club full of ‘his’ type of players. By that point though at least I’ll probably be spending the money I would have spent on a season ticket on something more entertaining/enjoyable. A new Xbox possibly..🙂 

Whatever floats your boat ! but I like the look of Vickers,Nyambe ,Nelson,Elder,Fornah,Ward and Wilson.Unlike some I'll give it a bit more time .

1 hour ago, Jourdan said:

Maybe, I guess we will see what Clowes’ view is in the coming days and weeks.

It seems to me fans are desperately craving a managerial change to the point where any sense of perspective is lost.

We all would love to see picture perfect performances and results, but the reality is that it will still be the same group of players until January who have yet to implement any plan particularly well.

We go direct? It’s too chaotic. We keep possession? It’s too slow. We have the ball? In control but no spark. We don’t have the ball? Pathetic.

What’s to say the new manager will do better? What’s to say the new manager won’t have teething problems?

 

Exactly! Listened to Colin Gibson's post match thoughts regarding the fact that Warne doesn't really appear to rate some of Rosenior's signings but obviously can't say so.The players who currently beat the brunt of most of our frustrations are Collins,NML and Smith-all LR signings.Contracts for Hourihane,Smith,NML,Collins,Barks and Sibley expire next June and I won't miss any of them.Cashin and Bird ,however,will be big losses but that's where we are as a club,sadly.Fornah,Nelson and Nyambe are good additions and Ward,Wilson and Elder,when fit,should improve us.Like many others I feel frustrated but expecting instantaneous success after what we've been through is totally unrealistic.It took Fergie,the greatest,5 seasons to get it right at Utd!!

Warne is getting a lot of criticism,some of it well over the top,but I won't sit in "judgment" until the squad is full of his signings and not one where he's trying to get the best out of several players who are past there sell by date and only here because we were desperate for bodies and offering the chance of one last decent pay day.

17 hours ago, SK47 said:

After watching Paul Warnes Cambridge interview regarding the Josh Vicars situation, I can't help but feel we have it wrong about what we value in a manager. 

I understand football is about results and success, but sometimes, seeing a managers humility and connection as a humanbeing with the players, especially at times of trauma, beats the lot for me.

I've been critical of Warne, as have a lot of us, but I would love nothing more than for Warne to get us promoted. I know his "let's be mates" mentality can be a bit cringe, and his 352 does your head in, but you can tell he really cares about those around him, and I would much rather be in the trenches with a man like Warne than someone coming here for a quick cheque. 

I'm crossing everything that things go right on the pitch, but regardless of that, I just wanna commend him for the person he is.

 

Salute to you Mr Warne.

🫶

 

 

By a million miles,my favourite post of the year 👏👏

If he’s got this in his locker,yes please!

35 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

I couldn’t have put it better myself. Mind you, I don’t believe in the Holocaust and am convinced the world is flat 😉

Oh dear,obviously facetious comment but bringing that into this conversation is bang out of order.Shame on you,I'd thought better of you.

1 hour ago, Sparkle said:

The bit where the Spanish players weren’t allowed to lock their rooms at night intrigued me and sounded like there might be a more to this story than has been aired.

Agree with you ,that sounds more serious to me as well.

1 hour ago, oodledoodle said:

Stupid Sky, being all anti sexual assault and not wanting the planet to burn.

None of us want the planet to burn but I think Mother Nature will decide when that happens not SKY tv!😅

2 minutes ago, Jram said:

Pretty seminal story in fairness 

Probably is to be fair but smacks of the lynch mob mentality to me.SKY are currently also pushing the Climate change affecting sport as we know it now as well ,sanctimonious barstewards!
Roll on Friday when we all realise we'll do nothing until 10.45pm and DCFC admin on Twitter kick in with their "teasing!"

4 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

Thanks for that, I was all ready to spend the day watching Sky Sports News tomorrow, which would have been a waste.

It is at the moment,all you'll hear about is some Spanish bloke giving a female footballer a kiss on the lips and the constant sermonising that SKY sports love to indulge in.

6 hours ago, Arsene Titman said:

No,it doesn’t- it says he has held talks with Brighton. Read my previous post

"Derby County defender Eiran Cashin has held talks with Premier League side Brighton Hove Albion ahead of a possible summer switch, according to journalist Mike McGrath."

According to Mike McGrath, Brighton have held talks with the aim of landing Cashin before Friday’s deadline. He is seen as a player that the seagulls are very much interested in signing before the window slams shut.of landing Cashin before Friday’s deadline. He is seen as a player that the seagulls are very much interested in signing before the window slams shut"

Same article-two different scenarios-crafty journalism !🙄

47 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Sheffield Wednesday fans have him down as one of their worst ever signings. I do believe we were in for him last season too. 

Not sure if he's injured or just completely out of the picture at the moment either. 

There's a player in there somewhere!

21 minutes ago, caymanram said:

Think Mason-Clarke would be the better investment to be honest 

As nice a thought as that is ,it won't happen.He only signed for Peterborough last season on a three year contract.Can't see them selling him to us or us affording him if they did.