Ken Tram

margaret.beckett.mp@parliament.uk

Absolutely great idea. A timeline of facts. 

Can we get a mod to make a thread with all of the EFL's wrongdoings over the last 2 years.  Have the thread open for people to list the points and then close it and pin it? 
Bullet point format including the likes of the stadium valuation fiasco  using Morcambe's ground as a template, to telling MPs to not make public statements? 
It can then be sent to MPs and the media who have just got involved and who will be unaware of how long and ridiculous this whole process has been.

If she saves the club get her a statue next to Cloughie and Taylor

Has anybody got MB's email address. I just want to send her a thank you email for what she's doing for us.
 

I have always thought that she is one of the the more honest MPs 
Its also worth remembering that if any local MP is not screaming and shouting in the right way and making things happen then they won’t be MPs next time because the fans will not vote for them regardless, the MPs know that ! 

You’re welcome; I appreciate it when others do this with interviews I miss. I think the MPs on the case will be a force to be reckoned with. Pauline Latham is my MP & she speaks her own mind.
MPs are used to working collaboratively across parties , we just don’t tend to hear about it. 

it is hopefully reassuring for Wayne Rooney to feel all this support 
 

The Government Minister said Hmrc is not the issue. On record in Parliament . 

For anyone who is on Twitter please get involved in this. I believe we are already 'trending'.

Well, I’ve just had a chat with the Postie and filled him in on the latest from the Rams....... he replied, “ Do you think Rooney will go to Everton “? FFS.

Telegraph trying to get answers, like Radio Derby 
Ed Dawes on Radio Derby said he knows fans who are getting quick replies from the administrators (whereas they haven’t been answering the media) who said that they have deliberately kept a low media profile but will be communicating more (well they couldn’t communicate less) 

Derby Telegraph on Radio Derby 
profile of this continues to be raised 
we’ve definitely got a collective groundswell of support from those in positions who can make an impact 

Derby City Council on Radio Derby 
definitely not going down without a fight
he’s contacting his counterparts in Middlesbrough & Wycombe about their claims 

This was supposed to be where people just post the facts of things happening with no discussion!!!!!!!!!!
eg Colin Murray show tonight at 11 thats it
its this sort of indiscipline that got us here!!!!! 

Yep and the politicians, if they want to apply real pressure, need to make it clear what kind of pragmatism they expect - which basically means Boro dropping the claims or (more likely) everyone accepting that they fall due to administration rules, regardless of their "merits", because the priority is paying off actual creditors and saving the company. They need to make it clear to the EFL and Boro that they don't consider it "pragmatism" or "compromise" if Gibson says "Okay instead of demanding a gillizion for that time Mel made me sad, I'll accept half a gazillion."

Beckett, Perkins and Daley were brilliant. Very proud of our local MPs, but also those from farther afield that supported them.
 
One thing that is abundantly clear, the EFL as sole arbiters, are finished.

The tough issue here is that despite all the talk of "compromise" and "pragmatism" these are going to mean quite different things to the different parties.
Boro seem to think it means: "Pay us £10m (or whatever) for our claim and we will go away."
For us (to Boro) it means: "Withdraw your claim, it relies on unproven and unprovable 'losses' and alleged wrongdoing by owners who are no longer involved in the club, and for which that club has already been punished."
And for us (to the EFL) it means: "Let us treat this claim exactly as it would be treated if this was a non-footballing administration - ie, ignore it completely since it isn't an existing debt ("football" or otherwise), and administration rules state compensation claims can't be started or pursued against a company in administration."
For the EFL it seems to mean: "Whatever doesn't upset Steve Gibson or get us sued."
The whole thing is a mess but simple calls for compromise and pragmatism, even if aimed at the EFL and Boro, aren't specific enough. That said the political and media pressure is growing and while Gibson might not care about that, the EFL probably will. This was a useful debate, I think, and the government stand-in seemed to "get it" by the end, if not at the start. It all helps. 
(The Bury thing is a real warning: if the EFL think overruling Boro will get them sued, or otherwise hurt them, they are the type of organisation who will just sit on their hands and "not-my-fault-guv"-it up to and beyond the point we get liquidated. That worries me more than anything.) 
 
 

He was so upset and angry about the fact that the EFL didn't do anything to help to save Bury and clearly they did not care one bit about the club, fans or the town. He was the one who was most critical of the EFL's attitude.

With the sports minister not being available, but then pitching-up too late to get involved, is there anything that points to him being a F*rest fan?

Watched it all. Well done to all local MPs and the very eloquent Bury MP.
My immediate thoughts are that this will put extra pressure on the EFL to allow us to exit administration.

Just a thought … could forum members fund between them raise enough to pay for, say, a class or a year group from a local school to go to a match? I’m not exactly sure of the cost of a child’s ticket but if it’s, say, £10 each plus a couple of adults, well that’s around £360. If forum members contributed £10 each that’s only 36 lots before we have a class full. We’d also need someone to contact a local school and offer them the tickets.
This would not only give us the opportunity to fund the club, but also encourage youngsters from the area to support the Rams.

Make it easy for the MP to do what you are asking!
Provide the MP with the name and work address of the EFL Chief Executive! (Does anyone know it off by heart?)
Also, write a specific question or questions that you'd like the MP to ask!
That way you've made it easy for the MP to do what you want! They can copy your question(s), and they can also copy the address of the EFL.

Here is RamsTrust template letter to help with what to say in your email:

Email sent to my local Leeds MP. Not sure what affect that will have but we have to try.