jono

I liked the retort to Chelsea fans when they sang "We pay your benefits" and South Stand retorted "We build your aeroplanes".
If that was an original, it was very funny! 

When the Heanor lads used to arrive on the Ossie end and shout “Eanor , Eanor” and the Popside would respond with “Sharples ,Sharples”  
You have to be over a certain age to get that 
 
 

Sung to the Birmingham fans, Que sera sera whatever will be will be, you’re going to Shrewsbury Que sera sera.

I am missing the stresses, highs and lows of a promotion chase. So to pass the time - what are the best ever chants?
I have a fondness for ‘Andy Comyn round the mountain when he comes’ started at Sunderland away (lashed it down after the game) and always liked the Phil Gee one - ‘Philip Gee, Philip Gee, Philip Gee, Philip Gee - scoring goals for Derby, Philip Gee’. Both totally unique which in the world of ubiquitous football chants is a rarity to be celebrated. 
 
3 months to go to the new season! 
 
🐏

Tyrèsee Campbell would be an interesting one, not had the greatest of seasons at Stoke after his injury,  but before looked quality,  A move away might do him good, quick and powerful 

Thing is with Fozzy is he has a football brain, is flexible enough to be LB, WB, CB and will perform whether it’s raining, a heat wave, Covid, He is boots on the ground that don’t leak. Oh yeah ..  he’s been there before and  if anyone is a RAM it’s Fozzy. I reckon he would be delighted to have another year and without an ego he’ll sit on a bench standing guard for the mighty Rams

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

I said on one of the other threads if you've got a squad with loans in from Liverpool and City and permanently signed Philogene amongst others from the Prem and they've got the lad Greaves everyone is supposedly after you need to be getting top 6. It was like us under Lampard, he had everything thrown at it financially to our detriment as we now know. Lampard jumped ship and he'd probably have got longer because of the infamous win against Leeds but with hindsight we should have got top 2 with the likes of Mount and Tomori on top of what was already a decent side (at the time). I feel a bit for Liam because he did ok with us and he did ok with Hull but his CV will show he's been let go twice in quickish succession which doesn't look great for a man starting out in management. 

I agree with all of that and yet we all know that there will be so many of our followers who will reinvigorate the “ Warne Out” campaign if we have a slow start. 
 
I shudder when I see comments suggesting that we should be aiming for the top next season, a la Ipswich. Realistically, what are the chances of that, irrespective of manager? If we can achieve a respectable mid table finish, I’ll take it now. I attended my first Rams game 60 years ago and have seen the great times and the awful times. That brings about a massive amount of realism. 
i know it’s old fashioned and probably boring, but I’m still grateful to Mr Clowes for having my Club to support. A week away from extinction recently and yet we’ve already managed promotion against so many odds. Ipswich didn’t have that kind of problem to deal with. I therefore set no unrealistic targets for the next season.
 
Unlike many owners, I suspect DC is blessed with a dose of realism too😄
 
 

All that tells us is that finishing 15th in 22-23 was slightly above where Hull ‘should have been’ in financial terms.
Where does finishing 7th line up with their spending in 23-24?

I think for most managers nowadays, they have to pick their jobs carefully. Maybe Rosenior signed a three-year deal in the winter as insurance more than anything?
The Championship was already a well known revolving door swallowing managers up and spitting them out. Then this ownership group came in, removed McCann almost instantly and then gave their own man Arveladze what amounted to slightly more than half a season, so maybe Rosenior understood he’d always be walking a tightrope?
I would agree that at the beginning of the season, most people would have had Leeds, Leicester and Southampton as the main contenders with a cluster of 6-7 other teams in the mix, with Hull as a dark horse in that group.
But as you alluded to, once you get into the top six and start rubbing shoulders with the big guns, the goalposts are only going to move one way…
Rosenior just has to play the game and pick his next job with more care. He doesn’t want to do what Rooney has done, for instance.

How is the 22/23 wage bill at all relevant to the squad that they've had this season? Typical Maguire.

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

Probably Cardiff where their centrehalf- Morrison? was giving it the biggun on line .  Smashed the s*** out of him and got 2 goals. 

He wasn't sacked by Derby, he was the interim manager who they decided not to offer the permanent role to.

Another sighting of a recent flavour of the month BS line:
"... it has become evident that our visions for the future are not aligned."
What a jolly way to make a living, writing meaningless pap that washes over the eyeballs. 

I think there are very few 10 million payers in the championship other than those with Parachute clubs. We cannot and will not be competing with Parachute money. I suggest that there will be no signings above 1 million. There will be deals, trades, swaps, loans and hopefully surprise finds.
 
If the Adams conversation is all about the difference between 250k and 500k then we have an idea of the sort of funds we are going to be talking about.  If a business has a turnover of 30 million a wage bill of let’s say 20 million and an owner who wants it to more or less break you don’t need to be a mathematician to make a reasonable guess as to likely expenditure. Well that’s my deduction anyway 

Apologies, I didn’t read the post you quoted. I still don’t necessarily think that wanting to spend £250k on Adams rather than £500k indicates how much we will spend. It’s been a while since we’ve freely spent frees on players, but going back to meeting club’s asking price at the first time of asking isn’t what I’d want to see us doing.
Adams has been excellent for us but he still is a player who has never proven himself above the third tier and isn’t wanted by his parent club. If we don’t spend £500k on him, then I don’t think it means we won’t/can’t spend £1mil on somebody else.

Probably one of the teams that played at the Baseball Ground. White shirts mixed with that pitch is going to leave the kits looking rather dirty.

Wimbledon in the late 80s early 90s had more "hard" players than most.
Even teams like Liverpool would have one...think souness or McMahon.

Don't think that's ever happened. We've had the odd player.....eg Robbie Savage with his ankle taps.....but a whole team of hard nuts? Not in my lifetime.....