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Agreed, I don't think the sale will go through until our fate is known, unless the bidders have been asked to submit 2 bids each, one based on championship football and one lg1. This could complicate matters whereby the PB for the championship could be different to the PB for lg1.
Regarding the sale of PP, I can see MM's side of the argument. If he accepts a low price, he is not giving the stadium to us, he's giving to some very rich people at a bargain price. However, he could accept a low price off the council and in effect give it to the people of Derbyshire at a low price. At the figures being discussed, the ground would give a decent annual return on the investment, with the possibility of selling the ground to the clubs owners in better times, for a considerable profit.

Agreed, I don't think the sale will go through until our fate is known, unless the bidders have been asked to submit 2 bids each, one based on championship football and one lg1. This could complicate matters whereby the PB for the championship could be different to the PB for lg1.
Regarding the sale of PP, I can see MM's side of the argument. If he accepts a low price, he is not giving the stadium to us, he's giving to some very rich people at a bargain price. However, he could accept a low price off the council and in effect give it to the people of Derbyshire at a low price. At the figures being discussed, the ground would give a decent annual return on the investment, with the possibility of selling the ground to the clubs owners in better times, for a considerable profit.

Agreed, I don't think the sale will go through until our fate is known, unless the bidders have been asked to submit 2 bids each, one based on championship football and one lg1. This could complicate matters whereby the PB for the championship could be different to the PB for lg1.
Regarding the sale of PP, I can see MM's side of the argument. If he accepts a low price, he is not giving the stadium to us, he's giving to some very rich people at a bargain price. However, he could accept a low price off the council and in effect give it to the people of Derbyshire at a low price. At the figures being discussed, the ground would give a decent annual return on the investment, with the possibility of selling the ground to the clubs owners in better times, for a considerable profit.

Great idea, get your money's worth by taking them to Blackpool away for the last away game of the season as well.
 

Great idea, get your money's worth by taking them to Blackpool away for the last away game of the season as well.
 

Bird's challenge was stupid and bad, Rooney must have told them not to give the ref a chance to even it up and it was a dangerous tackle. Also, a few thousand Derby fans, myself included, saying "ooh", must have helped the ref make up his mind.
This view clearly shows studs up, shin high, I'm afraid.

It appears that people are queuing up to pay £3bn for Chelsea who lost £145M last year, in a year where they finished towards the top of the premier league and won the Champions League, there's not much more they can do to improve their turnover.
At least with Derby, there is plenty of scope for improving their profitability. If Derby could reduce their overheads to that of preston, then we would be well in profit if we maintained our current turnover.

It appears that people are queuing up to pay £3bn for Chelsea who lost £145M last year, in a year where they finished towards the top of the premier league and won the Champions League, there's not much more they can do to improve their turnover.
At least with Derby, there is plenty of scope for improving their profitability. If Derby could reduce their overheads to that of preston, then we would be well in profit if we maintained our current turnover.

It appears that people are queuing up to pay £3bn for Chelsea who lost £145M last year, in a year where they finished towards the top of the premier league and won the Champions League, there's not much more they can do to improve their turnover.
At least with Derby, there is plenty of scope for improving their profitability. If Derby could reduce their overheads to that of preston, then we would be well in profit if we maintained our current turnover.

What if Bryson and Hughes hadn't both got long term injuries right at the end of the transfer window. This led to the panic buys of Butterfield and Johnson together with their wages, which then started the spiralling out of control wages throughout the squad.
If those injuries had occurred a week later, we may have suffered that season, but I don't think we'd be in the position we are now.

What if Bryson and Hughes hadn't both got long term injuries right at the end of the transfer window. This led to the panic buys of Butterfield and Johnson together with their wages, which then started the spiralling out of control wages throughout the squad.
If those injuries had occurred a week later, we may have suffered that season, but I don't think we'd be in the position we are now.

What if Bryson and Hughes hadn't both got long term injuries right at the end of the transfer window. This led to the panic buys of Butterfield and Johnson together with their wages, which then started the spiralling out of control wages throughout the squad.
If those injuries had occurred a week later, we may have suffered that season, but I don't think we'd be in the position we are now.

It's interesting to compare the values of Derby and Preston from an investors point of view. To really make any money you need to get promotion to the premier and currently you'd have to say that Preston are in a better position. However, looking at it from a practical point of view it is unlikely that either club will be in the premier any time soon. With this in mind, which club is the better prospect? I believe that even in lg1, Derby will generate a larger income than Preston and more so if competing in the same league, which is the most likely scenario in 2 or 3 years time.
In summary, I would suggest that Derby are more likely to bring in more money for the same expenditure on wages and running costs. 
Looking at the clubs' accounts, Preston are still losing money even with their relatively low wages and running costs. However, if Derby were to be run with the same level of wages and running costs, Derby would be be making a profit from their much larger turnover.

It's interesting to compare the values of Derby and Preston from an investors point of view. To really make any money you need to get promotion to the premier and currently you'd have to say that Preston are in a better position. However, looking at it from a practical point of view it is unlikely that either club will be in the premier any time soon. With this in mind, which club is the better prospect? I believe that even in lg1, Derby will generate a larger income than Preston and more so if competing in the same league, which is the most likely scenario in 2 or 3 years time.
In summary, I would suggest that Derby are more likely to bring in more money for the same expenditure on wages and running costs. 
Looking at the clubs' accounts, Preston are still losing money even with their relatively low wages and running costs. However, if Derby were to be run with the same level of wages and running costs, Derby would be be making a profit from their much larger turnover.

It's interesting to compare the values of Derby and Preston from an investors point of view. To really make any money you need to get promotion to the premier and currently you'd have to say that Preston are in a better position. However, looking at it from a practical point of view it is unlikely that either club will be in the premier any time soon. With this in mind, which club is the better prospect? I believe that even in lg1, Derby will generate a larger income than Preston and more so if competing in the same league, which is the most likely scenario in 2 or 3 years time.
In summary, I would suggest that Derby are more likely to bring in more money for the same expenditure on wages and running costs. 
Looking at the clubs' accounts, Preston are still losing money even with their relatively low wages and running costs. However, if Derby were to be run with the same level of wages and running costs, Derby would be be making a profit from their much larger turnover.

Does not mean they can not whisper in there ears can they.

Technically the 44 points required from last season should be lower this season.
Last season 6 points were lost from the table with Sheff Wed's 6 point deduction.
This season 27 points will be lost from the table, our 21 together with Reading's 6. 
By how many points this makes a difference, only a mathematician could guess.

Same reason that every transfer window goes down to the last seconds, when they've had all month. Someone, somewhere believes that they can gain an advantage by taking things to the last minute.

Same reason that every transfer window goes down to the last seconds, when they've had all month. Someone, somewhere believes that they can gain an advantage by taking things to the last minute.

Same reason that every transfer window goes down to the last seconds, when they've had all month. Someone, somewhere believes that they can gain an advantage by taking things to the last minute.

Well the last person bought the club out of the goodness of his heart and look how that turned out.

I think there will be an independent regulator, a bit like OFWAT or OFCOM. 
We could call it (F)OFEFL.  

This is an argument that Lewis cropping up with line decisions, wether for offside with var or goaline.
People suggest allowing a tolerance rather than the strict line as is currently used. How many times have you heard a player being only 1cm offside or the ball being the thickness of the leather from not over the line? Many feel that you cannot give the decision when it is so close, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
If we were to make it offside only if you're 10cm past the defender, then we'll have the same problems when a player is 11cm past a player. No, there had to be a cut off and that cut off must adhere to the laws of the game.
Remember, there are 2 teams involved in all these decisions, why should they be altered to suit the attacking side.

This is an argument that Lewis cropping up with line decisions, wether for offside with var or goaline.
People suggest allowing a tolerance rather than the strict line as is currently used. How many times have you heard a player being only 1cm offside or the ball being the thickness of the leather from not over the line? Many feel that you cannot give the decision when it is so close, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
If we were to make it offside only if you're 10cm past the defender, then we'll have the same problems when a player is 11cm past a player. No, there had to be a cut off and that cut off must adhere to the laws of the game.
Remember, there are 2 teams involved in all these decisions, why should they be altered to suit the attacking side.

This is an argument that Lewis cropping up with line decisions, wether for offside with var or goaline.
People suggest allowing a tolerance rather than the strict line as is currently used. How many times have you heard a player being only 1cm offside or the ball being the thickness of the leather from not over the line? Many feel that you cannot give the decision when it is so close, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
If we were to make it offside only if you're 10cm past the defender, then we'll have the same problems when a player is 11cm past a player. No, there had to be a cut off and that cut off must adhere to the laws of the game.
Remember, there are 2 teams involved in all these decisions, why should they be altered to suit the attacking side.