i-Ram

At least your carers still sober. 

Your wife’s a paedo, and you allow her to work in a hospital??  FFS man. What are you thinking.

Your wife’s a paedo, and you allow her to work in a hospital??  FFS man. What are you thinking.

Your wife’s a paedo, and you allow her to work in a hospital??  FFS man. What are you thinking.

A terrible time for you Maydrakin. I'm so sorry to hear the story about the season ticket, but more sorry to hear you dad died. Huge sympathies.
It's a terrible time for the club too. We know it was abandoned for months, the ticket office closed, no one there, and is now in administration fighting for its survival. It's obviously a case of crossed wires, people overworked or not being there to do the job. And now more have been made redundant. Plus it's probably illegal for the administrators to reimburse you because their obligation is to other creditors first.
It's all crap right now, and a thousand times more so for you. I'm sorry it's been handled badly by the club earlier on, and now it's out of the hands of anyone who's left or come in. I understand you getting the frustrations off your chest, but I don't think there can be any progress at this stage until after the club has been sold. Hoping it is. And even then, who knows? Let's hope any new owners want Derby to be a strong community-embedded club again.

I am writing this, largely out of frustration, but I feel I need to get it off my chest.
My dad was a season ticket holder for 50-odd years and he died of cancer in September. (I joined him as a season ticket holder from 1987)
He had renewed his ticket for the 2020-21 season before the pandemic hit which was carried over into this season.
In April, when he knew he was too poorly to go again, he wrote to the ticket office advising as such and would therefore prefer a refund to the ticket for 2021-22.
He received a response saying that the club could not provide a refund as the deadline had since passed.
As a result, I wrote to the club in July to see if an amicable solution could be found to transfer his ticket to my friend who would pay the difference from a 65+ ticket to a standard adult one, then paying my dad for the rest of the ticket.
I heard nothing.  I chased again twice and still heard nothing.
In an attempt to try and sort it out before the season ticket deadline (after my dad had recently died and after Derby had gone into administration), I went to the ticket office and was advised the process would be that my friend would have to buy the ticket in full and my dad could get a refund on his seat, due to his death.
I therefore paid for my friend’s seat (which was my dad’s seat) in full for my friend and gave details with regards to getting a refund.
This week, the SLO contacted me to say that it would be possible to upgrade his seat to my friend and to contact the ticket office accordingly, in response to my email sent in July.
When I explained what I had already been told by the ticket office, I received another email advising that due to the administration events, no refund could be given at all.
So, Derby County have taken my dad’s money and my friend’s money for the same seat, have given me conflicting information and are now reneging on returning my Dad’s refund (which would have obviously gone to my mother).
I have requested that I get his season ticket back but for a different seat, as I can either bring someone else, or sell it on to recover some of the cash, but have had no response so far.
I can’t express how poorly I have felt Derby have handled this, (effectively costing me over £300) and it shows how much they valued my dad as a “customer”, when their lack of providing the correct information or acting in a timely manner could have seen this resolved.
Overall, I’m really saddened that this becomes my Dad’s final legacy with the club that he loved.

Some care, Some care that a bloke who ordered the murder of a Washington Post journalist is now the proud owner of NUFC.
But not enough and you're right, it would be the same for most other clubs.

Morris actually said he wouldn't pursue QPR for compensation, so never did. It's now 7 years on from THAT season, so I don't know if an attempt to pursue it now would be allowed. 

We might never know, but perhaps the very same internal EFL process that Gibson is pursuing, Morris did similarly a few years back when QPR got fined? I believe all they are saying is that member clubs can only pursue action against each other via the agreed mechanism, and not through external legal action.

Technically a lot of us are millionaires I suppose. Might go for this MP lark up in Derby. Seems a good deal. Now I qualify am going to give it a go.  Lots on here will vote Angry I’m sure. If not they can fook off ??

Careful with your ‘vile Millionaires from down south’ rhetoric. I can think of at last 6 regular posters you have already alienated. Not that my mate @Angry Ram will give a toss.
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There is no point him trying to sue the club because if we are in Administration he would have nothing to gain. Even if he could prove a case - highly unlikely - and won, any award would rank as an unsecured creditor and get 2/3 of 3/4 of 5/8 of FA. If as part of Administration the club was bought, it would be bought by a different entity, and the entity to which Gibson would be suing would cease to exist.
If he should proceed with any case I cannot see the EFL would permit it under their membership rules. There would be anarchy. Would the door be open for us to sue QPR for instance.
IMO it is no more than sabre rattling, and Gibson trying to look hard to pacify his own entitled fanbase who are fed up with Championship football and Warnock’s brand of entertainment. The bloke is an irrelevance and we should ignore him, rather than give him the time and profile he seeks.

Bit early to start hoarding cereal. I think I will weetabix.

Well, with newcastle joining the diabolical regeme sportswashing club, this does make me think that we should be perhaps courting bids from the most evil governments the planet has to offer.
"Are you a dictator of an oil rich nation who craves international acceptance? Do you wish to raise your nation's profile through association with sporting greatness? Has the dream of seeing your enemies crushed before you and hearing the lamentation of their women become a little dull compared with the excitment of the English Football League? Why concern yourself with crushing dissodents when you could be concerned with Preston away. If this sounds like an escape from the daily grind of dealing with your barbaric security services, please consider buying Derby County! If you think this is for you, please email derbyinterestedparties@quantuma.com"

There is no point him trying to sue the club because if we are in Administration he would have nothing to gain. Even if he could prove a case - highly unlikely - and won, any award would rank as an unsecured creditor and get 2/3 of 3/4 of 5/8 of FA. If as part of Administration the club was bought, it would be bought by a different entity, and the entity to which Gibson would be suing would cease to exist.
If he should proceed with any case I cannot see the EFL would permit it under their membership rules. There would be anarchy. Would the door be open for us to sue QPR for instance.
IMO it is no more than sabre rattling, and Gibson trying to look hard to pacify his own entitled fanbase who are fed up with Championship football and Warnock’s brand of entertainment. The bloke is an irrelevance and we should ignore him, rather than give him the time and profile he seeks.

There is no point him trying to sue the club because if we are in Administration he would have nothing to gain. Even if he could prove a case - highly unlikely - and won, any award would rank as an unsecured creditor and get 2/3 of 3/4 of 5/8 of FA. If as part of Administration the club was bought, it would be bought by a different entity, and the entity to which Gibson would be suing would cease to exist.
If he should proceed with any case I cannot see the EFL would permit it under their membership rules. There would be anarchy. Would the door be open for us to sue QPR for instance.
IMO it is no more than sabre rattling, and Gibson trying to look hard to pacify his own entitled fanbase who are fed up with Championship football and Warnock’s brand of entertainment. The bloke is an irrelevance and we should ignore him, rather than give him the time and profile he seeks.

Ear, that barley registers as a pun, me old flour!  Brought a rye grimace to my face. 
Don't be surprised if they get the bran hammer out to you for that!
Cheerios... Cheerios... Cheerios...

Bit early to start hoarding cereal. I think I will weetabix.

This is not correct TuffLuff - the bit in bold.  MSD are going to get repaid if we are liquidated or not. Not only do they have a charge over the stadium but they have as I understand it personal guarantees from Morris. They will get their money back one way or another from the sale of the stadium, or taking possession and redeveloping it, with the fall back of going after Morris too if needs be. They are also directly secured by the club too, and the administrator has a duty to settle their claim as a secured creditor first in preference to HMRC. Morris might also expect (he may waive the right) for the club to settle MSD’s debt first as he might not want them coming after him personally under the guarantee.
l think the HMRC position is interesting regarding whether they might try to evidence that Morris and Pearce were acting unlawfully by continuing to trade when the club was insolvent, so that they could make a claim against them personally for any shortfall. It does seem to me that COVID is a bit of a smokescreen, and that potential buyers dropping out of potential purchases is a very weak argument regarding going concern status.

Many say it was the best goal ever scored by a Derby player. Hinton beat three men on the wing before firing in a pinpoint cross which O'Hare brought down with his chest, and in one movement laid it off to Hector. King Zac swivelled, taking out two defenders before nutmegging a third and firing an unstoppable shot in off the post and bar.
 
Ok, I haven't really got a clue, but if it makes you feel better, it bounced off his knee, onto his arse and bobbled over the line.

4/October 1969 Derby v Man U We won 2-0 Programme 1 shilling (5p, kiddies). In a packed popside (think it was called that then) a young girl near me felt faint so I helped her out to the back of the stand.
Beginning of the end--we've been married 45 years now.

Bit early to start hoarding cereal. I think I will weetabix.

100 shares in DCFC. You are now in heavy debt. Well done anyway!

Peter Doherty, Jackie Stamps, Roy Mac, Kevin Hector, Marco Gabiadini, Stephen Pearson, Tommy Johnson, Jack Marriott. What do I win?