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It's interesting reading the Boro thread from the final day of the 18-19 season. https://www.oneboro.co.uk/forum/topic/8276-boro-v-rotherham-a-1-2-assombalonga-mikel/page/19/#comments 
I think throughout the whole thing there's one mention of our alleged 'cheating' and endless discussion of how rubbish Boro were that season. Apparently they even took inflatable dinosaurs to the game in a protest against Tony Pulis' prehistoric football.
Surely, if our 'cheating' was so instrumental in determining the final league standings, Boro fans would have discussed it to death at that time. Surely, their fans wouldn't be saying how rubbish Boro were.
Some highlights:
AdamBoro: "Boro dont deserve playoffs, and if they did make it would no chance get promotion." [Pg10] Dan1234: "Let's be honest, who on earth wanted to sit through a season in the prem under Pulis." [Pg11] Jimmy: "Ah well that was 45 mins of fun anyway. Now get rid of Pulis at 5pm. Failure to get top six is a massive underachievement no matter ‘how much he’s done behind the scenes’." [Pg11] Hanzino: "Hahahaha, get in. Did not want to see us get smashed in the playoffs anyway, get this idiotic dinosaur out the club right now" [Pg11] Pikerman: "Taxi for Mr Pulis all the way back to Dorset please and definitely one way. Who can honestly say we deserve a top six place after losing six on the trot" [Pg11] Jamie-H: "Hope we kept the receipts for all those overhauls and renovations he did in January hopefully they're still in warranty. When he walks away the excuses and tales we'll hear about how he was so unlucky and how he never could get a striker in that he wanted. There's bright spots for next season Britt and Fletcher look good McNair's been decent the past few games and we have Wing/Tav who could really breakout next season." [Pg12] Borodane: "It’s more or less the only way you can tell the club what you feel. They won’t be looking at message boards and they won’t be asking fans. They certainly won’t be paying attention to letters like the one Will wrote. The only way you can show the club that you aren’t happy is by protesting in numbers at a match or outside the ground. As paying costumers we have the right to criticize the product." [Pg14] BegStealOrBoro: "Except they haven’t. They are really struggling to sell anywhere near the amount they did before this season.  Either way the argument is getting a little dull. Pulis finished 7th with one of the most expensive squads in the league. He has alienated large amounts of the fan base while not delivering the results he needed. It’s Gibson’s call on whether to keep him, but I cannot see how anyone can view the season as a success - and because of that I do not understand any desire to keep him. It’s not like we have been playing better and better through the season." [Pg14] Rioch's Braves: "I wish to *** Frank Lampard was our manager set his side out to play good entertaining football and regardless of the play offs what a superb 1st season for him. Football wins today for me. Times up Pulis you have FAILED with your dated boring lifeless poor excuse for football." [Pg15] Ash: "Desperately need to invest in new players and a new manager next season. The truth is, we were never good enough to go up and didn't deserve to." [Pg15] JamesP: "Would have been so undeserved if we had finished sixth, and Pulis would have embarrassed us again. Worst season in memory. Please get rid" [Pg15] Duvel: "This hasn't been the lowest finishing position I've seen but it's by far and away been the worst football I've ever seen as a Boro fan. Even in season's where we've been relegated I've seen some flair players or the occasional game which was enjoyable, this has just been dire to watch. I'll be glad if Pulis goes but I've got no faith in Gibson anymore to make the right changes, the final straw for me was Gibson putting up prices after the season we've just watched. It's clear that they see us as customers now rather than supporters, well if you want to treat me like a customer then you need to provide a product. Until then I won't be back at the ground." [Pg17] Rioch's Braves: "Never thought I'd be saying this but if Gibson hasn't got the vision, ambition and direction to take this club forward then though his been a brilliant chairman/owner perhaps its time to hand over the reigns to someone else. I have felt for a long time that its not just a case of Gibson making poor decisions but that he really has ran out of ideas and that's t a sad time. I would love Steve to prove me wrong but I can't see it happening, we are a club going backwards." [Pg18]  

Not posted in a while.... The stress is killing me.....
I'm sure some have you have stumbled across the amusing reading I found and attach below.
Boro fans wanting our demise might want to be careful what they wish for. SG is far from the clean cut business man they believe he is....
 
 
Boro apparently £35m in debt for this season alone ???. Only allowed £39m over 3seasons. Pot kettle springs to mind.... and the bit of extra reading I've done tonight was that Gibson sold the club's debt to his own haulage company to get around FFP which the EFL have now closed the loophole on..... What an absolute twonk! 
So by his logic any club Boro beat (unfair advantage due to over spending) this season could sue due to cheating...and if they get into the playoffs or promoted the same would apply.
 
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-fc-reveal-record-35m-20201847.amp
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/17445267
 
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/69m---debt-gratitude-boro-3726231
I'll go back to my dark room and crack the single malt open again to try and forget this never ending nightmare. 
 
UTR!

Any can they get a message to mel Morris, 
Pay up for your mistakes, you caused all this not the fans 
Us Derby fans follow Derby through and through, we live for Derby County 
He is wealthy and surely he can pay 50 mill if it saves us 
According to the Sunday Times Rich List 2020, Morris is said to have amassed a fortune of £515m, making him the joint 268th richest person in the UK, and the joint 11th richest in the East Midlands.
Alot of people's mental heath will be at risk, mine certainly will be 
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Come on Lamps you can do it

Being interviewed by Everton apparently - Percy RT
 
 

Wow. Nice comment from a fan of the Dirties:
Im a LUFC fan who knows what its like like many other clubs to feel screwed over by the EFL, Derby have been punished enough, more than enough. Naturally im not the biggest admirer of DCFC but me and millions in the world know how much a club means to a community and someone as historic as Derby to go out of existence would be an embarrassment. MOT 懶 Good luck gentlemen and F the EFL

Just seeing that photograph of our local MP Pauline Latham, standing in front of the Rams Trust Community sign, has made me so angry. What the hell happens to all the brilliant work done by the Rams Community Trust (and those of other football clubs too) when a club is forced out of business by some vindictive little pr**k. What happens to all the folks they support? Hang your head in shame. You know who you are. If you were in my class you'd be sitting on the classroom carpet every dinnertime for the next year to think about what you'd done.?

Mel could have swerved around the minus 12 for going into administration, and sold the club (inc debts) for a quid.  He could even have helped further, by settling all/part of the debts beforehand, thus making the club a more attractive proposition for someone to take on.
For reasons known only to him, he decided against this approach, and bailed out.
I'm no expert... and no personal acquaintance of Mr Morris... but I suspect that there is little hope of him bunging the club now! 

To Mel,
You're a Bamford.

30k profit 

30k profit 

30k profit 

Mike Ashley was at the training centre yesterday morning. 
 
I’d say if he’s serious in buying us he wants this sorting asap. Fingers crossed we hear some good news this week. 

30k profit 

Put our claim in now, we want £200mil from QPR. While we are at it, how about £50mil from every other club that has breached ffp and cost us the couple of points which would have given us automatic promotion. Start the free for all. 

Isn't driving into Shirebrook alone showing enough passion, without having to shake anything ?

The reason Mike Ashley isn’t in the highest regard at Newcastle is because NUFC supporters think they should be above the top 6 year on year. 
 
Their expectations are way too high, ours aren’t. 
 
Bring it on Mike and thank you for taking an interest in our club. 

In the Prem, ran sustainably, backed his managers.  I’d take 12th place in the Prem with no debt right now.  And the occasional cup run.

One thing is for certain - under Mike Ashley, Derby County will survive as a football club.  It might not be pretty, it might not be a successful period in our history but, make no doubt about it, we would survive and, frankly, that is enough for me after the last two years.

Maybe I'm in a minority, but I wouldn't mind Mike Ashley being involved with Derby.
I can see beyond the newcastle stuff, as to be totally honest I regard their fans amongst the most self centred, deluded, sense of self importance and grandeur. File alongside spurs and villa fans.
Ashley isn't God, but he certainly isn't Satan either.
His financial clout, experience of admin businesses and all their pitfalls will be a bonus.
We need to look at our situation we are currently in. Not talk rubbish about how he won't invest when we are in the prem. We aren't in the lrem and probably won't be for a very very very long time.
This club needs a 10 year re set.

Yeah seriously wealthy guy that has lots of experience in English football including2 x championship promotions and Running a club sensibly in the prem. Give your head a swivel
 

Ran them at a profit - didn’t put them in administration. 

I actually think Ashley would do all he can to get us back to the premier league we’d be worth more to him then