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Cheers Steve!

Steve Nicholson replied to one of yesterday's Q&A that the exclusivity period may be extended again.
He made a wry reply when asked if Ashley was still in the background, along the lines of 'Has he ever been away?' I think @LeedsCityRam summed it up, however. Ashley may be a billionaire, but his finances are probably complicated etc, and in the end he is a hard nosed businessman, he won't recoup anything on us unless we do reach the PL, vis a recent offer for Sheff United. It's the game-changer/gamble that Morris believes it to be but he went the wrong way about it. Ashley was able to run Newcastle the way he did (prudently) through that PL revenue rather than his own money. 
CK appears genuine, but is an unknown quantity. MA an unsentimental businessman, but whose approach may be better suited to a club with more modest ambitions than Newcastle's. Heart says CK, head says MA. If only Mel had had a bit more Mike Ashley about him & had sat in the stand in a Derby shirt & a pint in his hand.
I think liquidation won't happen, but if it is MA instead of CK, then we may suffer more points deductions. I hope it's resolved soon (understatement). It's galling to see Chelsea being bought for £4.25bn, to think £45m would purchase us & Pride Park, just over 1% of that offer for Chelsea. I know it is much more complicated than that (London real estate prices).
And then you have Jim Ratcliffe banging on about a British bid for a British club. He owns Nice in Ligue 1 which he bought for £91m. He could have a 'British club' for peanuts in comparison.
 

We don’t know what Ashley’s plan would be, most people are assuming he will pay Mel and minimal amount to the creditors resulting in -15, some say we’ll be a Phoenix club in league 2 - this in my opinion won’t happen as there is no way enough of the 72 clubs will vote it through. Personally I think -15 is likely with Ashley but we’re speculating. But we’re not speculating about his interest in the club, this is out there through reputable journalists, and I heard his people (Lee Charnley) have had meetings with local councillors. He wouldnt be doing that if he didn’t want the club. If CK fails I fully expect Ashley will conclude a deal.
 
Is MA owning the club a good thing, I don’t know possibly long term but the sheer fact it would mean adding more time to the process Rooney and players leaving, add in a possible -15 points, we could end up with at least a couple of years down there, whereas conclude this quickly and we still have the massive momentum from this season which quite possibly has been the most positive relegation of all time. 
 
 

Steve Nicholson replied to one of yesterday's Q&A that the exclusivity period may be extended again.
He made a wry reply when asked if Ashley was still in the background, along the lines of 'Has he ever been away?' I think @LeedsCityRam summed it up, however. Ashley may be a billionaire, but his finances are probably complicated etc, and in the end he is a hard nosed businessman, he won't recoup anything on us unless we do reach the PL, vis a recent offer for Sheff United. It's the game-changer/gamble that Morris believes it to be but he went the wrong way about it. Ashley was able to run Newcastle the way he did (prudently) through that PL revenue rather than his own money. 
CK appears genuine, but is an unknown quantity. MA an unsentimental businessman, but whose approach may be better suited to a club with more modest ambitions than Newcastle's. Heart says CK, head says MA. If only Mel had had a bit more Mike Ashley about him & had sat in the stand in a Derby shirt & a pint in his hand.
I think liquidation won't happen, but if it is MA instead of CK, then we may suffer more points deductions. I hope it's resolved soon (understatement). It's galling to see Chelsea being bought for £4.25bn, to think £45m would purchase us & Pride Park, just over 1% of that offer for Chelsea. I know it is much more complicated than that (London real estate prices).
And then you have Jim Ratcliffe banging on about a British bid for a British club. He owns Nice in Ligue 1 which he bought for £91m. He could have a 'British club' for peanuts in comparison.
 

Steve Nicholson replied to one of yesterday's Q&A that the exclusivity period may be extended again.
He made a wry reply when asked if Ashley was still in the background, along the lines of 'Has he ever been away?' I think @LeedsCityRam summed it up, however. Ashley may be a billionaire, but his finances are probably complicated etc, and in the end he is a hard nosed businessman, he won't recoup anything on us unless we do reach the PL, vis a recent offer for Sheff United. It's the game-changer/gamble that Morris believes it to be but he went the wrong way about it. Ashley was able to run Newcastle the way he did (prudently) through that PL revenue rather than his own money. 
CK appears genuine, but is an unknown quantity. MA an unsentimental businessman, but whose approach may be better suited to a club with more modest ambitions than Newcastle's. Heart says CK, head says MA. If only Mel had had a bit more Mike Ashley about him & had sat in the stand in a Derby shirt & a pint in his hand.
I think liquidation won't happen, but if it is MA instead of CK, then we may suffer more points deductions. I hope it's resolved soon (understatement). It's galling to see Chelsea being bought for £4.25bn, to think £45m would purchase us & Pride Park, just over 1% of that offer for Chelsea. I know it is much more complicated than that (London real estate prices).
And then you have Jim Ratcliffe banging on about a British bid for a British club. He owns Nice in Ligue 1 which he bought for £91m. He could have a 'British club' for peanuts in comparison.
 

Steve Nicholson replied to one of yesterday's Q&A that the exclusivity period may be extended again.
He made a wry reply when asked if Ashley was still in the background, along the lines of 'Has he ever been away?' I think @LeedsCityRam summed it up, however. Ashley may be a billionaire, but his finances are probably complicated etc, and in the end he is a hard nosed businessman, he won't recoup anything on us unless we do reach the PL, vis a recent offer for Sheff United. It's the game-changer/gamble that Morris believes it to be but he went the wrong way about it. Ashley was able to run Newcastle the way he did (prudently) through that PL revenue rather than his own money. 
CK appears genuine, but is an unknown quantity. MA an unsentimental businessman, but whose approach may be better suited to a club with more modest ambitions than Newcastle's. Heart says CK, head says MA. If only Mel had had a bit more Mike Ashley about him & had sat in the stand in a Derby shirt & a pint in his hand.
I think liquidation won't happen, but if it is MA instead of CK, then we may suffer more points deductions. I hope it's resolved soon (understatement). It's galling to see Chelsea being bought for £4.25bn, to think £45m would purchase us & Pride Park, just over 1% of that offer for Chelsea. I know it is much more complicated than that (London real estate prices).
And then you have Jim Ratcliffe banging on about a British bid for a British club. He owns Nice in Ligue 1 which he bought for £91m. He could have a 'British club' for peanuts in comparison.
 

Steve Nicholson replied to one of yesterday's Q&A that the exclusivity period may be extended again.
He made a wry reply when asked if Ashley was still in the background, along the lines of 'Has he ever been away?' I think @LeedsCityRam summed it up, however. Ashley may be a billionaire, but his finances are probably complicated etc, and in the end he is a hard nosed businessman, he won't recoup anything on us unless we do reach the PL, vis a recent offer for Sheff United. It's the game-changer/gamble that Morris believes it to be but he went the wrong way about it. Ashley was able to run Newcastle the way he did (prudently) through that PL revenue rather than his own money. 
CK appears genuine, but is an unknown quantity. MA an unsentimental businessman, but whose approach may be better suited to a club with more modest ambitions than Newcastle's. Heart says CK, head says MA. If only Mel had had a bit more Mike Ashley about him & had sat in the stand in a Derby shirt & a pint in his hand.
I think liquidation won't happen, but if it is MA instead of CK, then we may suffer more points deductions. I hope it's resolved soon (understatement). It's galling to see Chelsea being bought for £4.25bn, to think £45m would purchase us & Pride Park, just over 1% of that offer for Chelsea. I know it is much more complicated than that (London real estate prices).
And then you have Jim Ratcliffe banging on about a British bid for a British club. He owns Nice in Ligue 1 which he bought for £91m. He could have a 'British club' for peanuts in comparison.
 

Steve Nicholson replied to one of yesterday's Q&A that the exclusivity period may be extended again.
He made a wry reply when asked if Ashley was still in the background, along the lines of 'Has he ever been away?' I think @LeedsCityRam summed it up, however. Ashley may be a billionaire, but his finances are probably complicated etc, and in the end he is a hard nosed businessman, he won't recoup anything on us unless we do reach the PL, vis a recent offer for Sheff United. It's the game-changer/gamble that Morris believes it to be but he went the wrong way about it. Ashley was able to run Newcastle the way he did (prudently) through that PL revenue rather than his own money. 
CK appears genuine, but is an unknown quantity. MA an unsentimental businessman, but whose approach may be better suited to a club with more modest ambitions than Newcastle's. Heart says CK, head says MA. If only Mel had had a bit more Mike Ashley about him & had sat in the stand in a Derby shirt & a pint in his hand.
I think liquidation won't happen, but if it is MA instead of CK, then we may suffer more points deductions. I hope it's resolved soon (understatement). It's galling to see Chelsea being bought for £4.25bn, to think £45m would purchase us & Pride Park, just over 1% of that offer for Chelsea. I know it is much more complicated than that (London real estate prices).
And then you have Jim Ratcliffe banging on about a British bid for a British club. He owns Nice in Ligue 1 which he bought for £91m. He could have a 'British club' for peanuts in comparison.
 

To be fair they did win a bit but it was only 10 years after the Titanic sank and a mere 20 years after our admin promised we'd be 'surprised how quick things would now move and the stadium was  no impediment' .  They are however, as insufferable as West Ham ' we won the World Cup' fans in terms of delusion.  West Ham probably being a bit worse as they really have won f**k all and have done it in a stadium everyone paid for ( for those who constantly bang on about how insufferable it is that Derby don't pay the exchequer every penny owed and public funds can't be used to deal with a ground purchase.)
 

I would have said: ‘running a club like MM ran DCFC is an expensive business’. 
 

The only updates we’ve had this week is confirmation of some local businessmen trying to do a deal for PP, a hint CK may be doing something similar, and a tweet from CK saying he hopes to get this done ahead of when his exclusivity expires. We also know Ashley is waiting if it fails. 
 
It looks like we’re going to have a club to support which many doubted, the only thing is now will next season be a promotion push or a relegation battle and that all depends on who buys the club and how much longer this drags on. For that reason I hope CK gets it done.

Who was it that poached Dylan Williams off us, again?

Disappointed at Ebosele & his exit, he burst onto the scene, then there was the link to Forest, and relief that he stayed. On the one hand, I understand his decision, the on-going instability at the club, playing in L1, though that didn't do Wes Morgan any harm, a big useless lump who went on to win a PL title.
Ebosele has joined Udinese, exciting as that sounds, he may end up at Watford. If so, he should look at what has happened to Jeremy Ngakia. Ngakia broke into the West Ham side. Understandably, he was perhaps annoyed at then being offered £5k a week (according to reports), before he opted to move to Watford on a free. If he had kept up his level of performances, West Ham are likely to have offered him improved terms. He would have played under a manager known to nurture young players.
What Ebosele may have gained, leaving a basket-case of a club, he may find that he has joined something similar in terms of on the football pitch. How many managers has Ngakia had? Has he really kicked on or developed? Has anyone at Watford taken the same level of interest as Moyes & the West Ham coaching staff did with him? Look at Ben Foster's criticism of his Watford teammates. It sounds like an environment where a young player can sink rather than swim if there isn't anyone to look out for him/mentor him, vis a Curtis Davies etc.
It remains to be seen whether Rooney stays if the takeover drags on, but he'd probably have been a better person to develop under than at Watford with their serial managerial changes & lack of continuity. In fact, Glenn Murray said on 5live that he couldn't even remember the name of one of the managers he played under when he was on loan at Watford.

Recommend George Hirst, now his loan at Portsmouth comes to an end, 15 goals in total this season.

I finished 8th in Div 1...utilizing the "Wycombe Method" I'm assuming I get promoted?

People go on about Ashley not spending money and trying to get things on the cheap. Fair enough, but I tell you one thing though, if he owned us we wouldn't be cashing in sell on fees for a few hundred grand to keep us for deaths door or letting players go for peanuts when we previously thought they were our golden eggs. Being hard nosed can work for you.
I'm not saying I'm backing Ashley.
I'm at the point where I couldn't care who gets the club now. I just want a club to support. That's where we are at. The fact we have anyone willing to try and sort out this mess, to me, is nothing short of a miracle and any party trying to save this club has my full support.

Update:
Clarification from Quantuma, they said stakeholders, they meant they're getting steaks for dinner. "Top quality ones too"

Final standings for the 2021/22 Prediction League, I'm sure there's a way of determining a winner between @Premier ram and @TheHospitalier but i cba to sort one, so congratulations both..
 
Premiership
Premier ram    59
TheHospitalier    59
BodminRam    57
Cisse    57
Kenavo    57
ilsonram12    55
LeedsCityRam    55
rammieib    54
timlondinium    53
r4derby    49
SKHunter    49
Wolfie    49
DCFC1388    48
rynny    48
AndyB    47
BOB BIGGS    47
ramant62    47
REDCAR    47
harwich ram    44
jimtastic56    44
 
Championship

Fla Ram    43
Jase116    43
mozza    43
Asanovic70    42
samwcave    42
TexasRam    42
europia    41
JMC    41
Brammie Steve    40
ColonelBlimp    40
Lurky    40
Ramifications    40
dcfc the 1 4me    39
Parsnip    39
Rich84    39
Jimbo Ram    38
leroyoftherovers    38
dabber    37
Miggins    37
Woodley Ram    37
BramcoteRam84    36
California Ram.    36
WharfedaleRam    36
hydraulic ram    34
 
Div1

TimRam    34
DCFC Kicks    33
OohMartWright    31
BucksRam    30
gccrowdpleaser    30
Jourdan    30
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta    30
Yani P    30
DesertRam    29
Mckram    29
CBRammette    28
Chris_Martin    28
Foreveram    28
JarodyDCFC    28
Mick Brolly    28
MidWalesRam    28
BathRam72    27
swansea ram    27
Turk Thrust    27
Elgin_Ram    26
RadioactiveWaste    26
taffyram    25
Amberram    24
Dethorn    24
 
Div2

lukedcfc    24
Malty    24
StevenageRam    24
Ted McMinn Football Genius    24
angieram    23
86 Hair Islands    23
True Ram    23
Addingham Ram    22
Rampant    22
BriggRam    21
1967Ram    21
StrawHillRam    21
cstand    20
Dean (hick) Saunders    20
Van der MoodHoover    20
Wolfie20    20
BarrowRam    19
ramit    19
Ramsamwidge    19
Topram    19
hintonsboots    18
Wistaston Ram    18
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong    17
Simmo's left foot    16
 
Div3

Dordogne-Ram    15
chewbacca    14
Eargasm    14
Kernow    14
PendineRam    14
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa    13
devonram1980    12
Kinder    12
Marriot Ram99    12
Mucker1884    12
erathirea    11
Leeds Ram    11
Rampage    11
Steve Buckley's Dog    11
Angry Ram    10
CumbriaRam    10
Johnnyoj    10
StarterForTen    10
HonitonRam    9
Blondest Goat    8
BrudeRAM    8
Maharan    8
niram    8
glyn1957    7
 
Div4

Carnero    6
Makedoh    6
Ramrob    6
Saul    6
Steve How Hard?    6
Theres's Only Wan Chope    6
WhiteHorseRam    6
Dinnitdough    5
Finch    5
LazloW    5
mwram1973    5
oohmarkwright    5
Ram_in_Cumbria    5
atherstoneram    4
bucktwo    4
Crewton    4
Diego    4
Eddie    4
Magicman    4
minesahartington    4
Remy the hare    4
RodleyRam    4
Abu Derby    3
B4ev6is    3
 
Div5

Charliegeorge1962    3
davenportram    3
DerbyRam!    3
EraniosSocks    3
Penelope Pendrex    3
Reverend    3
scout's dad    3
ScubaRam    3
SWRam    3
Tamworthram    3
twinkletoes    3
Alan Ramage 4 EVA    2
Alty_Ram    2
Ambitious    2
BuckoBeast    2
Charlotte Ram    2
FindernRam    2
G-Ram    2
Half Fan Half Biscuit    2
ivo_knoflicek    2
Jayram    2
Joe     2
Jortat    2
MickD    2
 
Div6

Rab a dab doo    2
Ratpackram    2
Seths-cap    2
Sheff Ram    2
Simon Bradley    2
Sweetness34    2
The Scarlet Pimpernel    2
Tyler Durden    2
uttoxram75    2
Anag Ram    1
Animal is a Ram    1
Bubbles    1
Chester40    1
Coconut's Beard    1
DavesaRam    1
De22Ram    1
Donegal Ram    1
Foxy Ram    1
Fraser_23    1
Gordamn    1
handyill    1
Hathersage Ram    1
Ilkestonian    1
irobinson    1
 
Div7

Keepyuppy    1
kevinhectoring    1
MackworthRamIsGod    1
NottmRAM    1
Old Sawley Popside    1
Ovine_Interferer    1
PistoldPete    1
plymouthram    1
1977 Ram Raider    1
RamDotFi    1
RamontheMoor    1
richinspain    1
Robert Earnshaws Workrate    1
Scott129    1
Sean    1
Seaside Ram    1
secretsquirrel    1
sheeponacid    1
Sparkle    1
superzak    1
TomTom92    1
tomsdubs    1
twelveincher    1
whaley bridge Ram    
Wignall12    1
ziggyram59    1
 
DONE !!
 
 

Think ultimately even if next season doesn’t see us go up we’ll be back up within 3. 
  
Can we appreciate that Rotherham regularly come straight back up and they’re dreadful. 

Our realistic goal is that we aim to be challenging for promotion. We might not succeed, but it’ll be a pretty disappointing season if we’re not at least in the conversation. 

What promotion party would that be?
Honestly, I'm getting pretty sick of patronising posts like these from fans who feel the need to reality check everyone who posts anything remotely upbeat. And FWIW, I've not seen a single post, not one, where the poster in question suggests we're going to walk the league. Even if I had, I'd not feel the need to qualify it with a 'healthy does of realism', especially after the season we've just had.
Frankly, I think many of us have had all the 'realism' we can stomach right now. In any instance, my guess would be that the only party the vast majority are contemplating will be the one occurring if or when the takeover is confirmed. 

Rams fans didn’t warm to Pearson , perhaps because he was born in Nott’m.   But then again Rowett is not very popular and he was supposed to be a die hard Ram.Their style of management is very similar - they know how to get the best out of a striker.

I am sure Colin Gibson has sensationalised it slightly but shows the measure of Chris Powell as a man that he accepted that nonsense from Morris.
A season that summed up Morris’ entire ownership. Complete and utter incompetence from start to finish

Yes, I agree, which explains Rooney's sense of urgency about the situation. I do think this squad needs more experience, however, the right sort of experience, and sometimes the sort of unheralded player who has been there & done it, i.e. Richie Smallwood (Rotherham, Hull). Sean Flynn under Jim Smith. Their tenure may be brief but they make a telling contribution, helping to get the side over the line. 
The platform is there, a ball-playing side with an identity can get out of the division (Swansea). Forest appointed Calderwood, whose career since has been checkered, but he molded a side built on Academy players & shrewd acquisitions. I'd like to think Rooney - should he stay - is smart enough to know League 1 & we were linked to Charles pre-season. We'll probably have to play the loan market well, too.
I agree with your point about Ashley . I think the Council's offer/overtures to buy the ground & lease it back to the club could be key. It may be the decisive factor helping to facilitate any takeover.
 

All the very best for the coming season and beyond.I hope Rooney sticks by you with a decent owner on board he has a good a chance as anybody to get you back up.Your fans have been superb through this crap period.Things can change very quick in football and sometimes for the better, look at us in the so called best league in the world the Premier league for another season.Although my opinion of  the PL ( I’ve missed 2 games this season )is it’s the fatal attraction of clubs who risk everything to get to the tv cash when for us fans it’s a bland predictable bore fest unless you are a top 4 club the rest just make up the numbers.I won’t shed a tear when we eventually get back to the championship a far better and more competitive league to play in.Hope to be playing you at Pride Park again soon.