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Not that it really means anything but Rotherham were relegated by 4pts in the 2018/19 season and by 2pts in the 2020/21 season.  Last season PW left them towards the end of September in 8th place and they managed to stay up with 50pts.  This season, their first full season without PW in a long time, they are currently a massive 20pts adrift at the bottom.
Normally wage budget is a good indicator of where you'll finish at the end of the season and Rotherham prove this time and again.  Didn't Nigel Clough hail Burton Albions success at remaining in the Championship for one his greatest achievements?  I don't know what Rotherhams Lg1 budget is like compared to the rest, but for PW to get them promoted 3x (and us 1x hopefully!) and keep them in contention throughout a Championship season shouldn't be underestimated imho.
I did say that normally wage budget is a good indicator of where you'll finish, but I think the circumstances of us coming out of administration counter that argument a little.  Did LR have a choice of player or did he just get who was available?  PW came in and inherited a squad of older players that needed to be managed and younger players that needed time to grow - one of his first interviews highlighted a lack of players in their prime.  
During his time with us his hands have been tied financially and he's managed an injury prone squad to the brink of automatic promotion.  I personally think if we go up at the weekend we're ahead of schedule.  Next season would have been his first legitimate attempt with a bit of financial muscle - hence DC giving him a 4yr deal.
Next season is going to be tough, we aren't an Ipswich who built a squad over several seasons and just need to add a few players to go again.  Its another rebuild with limited funds, we were warned at the recent Fans Forum that we'd be looking for stability first and foremost and to me that means just avoiding relegation next season.  Unless we get some outside funding I won't be shouting for PWs head at Christmas if we're struggling.  Bottom 6 at the end of the season would be a good building block to kick on from if we've got a core of players we can then add to. 
We're not throwing money around risking our existence like we used to.  Slow, steady and realistic progress is the way forwards.

Cameron Brannigan, Ebou Adams & Josh Sheehan would be a very decent midfield next season.

Cameron Brannigan, Ebou Adams & Josh Sheehan would be a very decent midfield next season.

Wednesday didn't really strengthen at all and a few of their older players like Bannan weren't able to perform at Championship level anymore. I would be more confident that we would sign replacements for the likes of Hourihane, Waggy and others who clearly aren't going to be offered new contracts, which will include a few current Championship-standard players as well as younger players capable of growing into it. We aren't going to storm the division but I think we'd be resilient enough to keep our heads above water in the first season.

I do hate it when I agree with you Bris.  I love Warne.  As a bloke he's great, and as a manager he's not too shabby either, but if we're languishing around the bottom as we approach Christmas then like any other manager he should be let go.  Most fans would be prepared to yo-yo between the Prem & Championship, but not Championship & League 1.  But he's done an amazing job this season, and if we do go up, he deserves a chance.

It pains me to say it, but they'll stay up, simply by the virtue of Burnley & Luton being slightly more rubbish than them.  Having said that, if Luton grab a point or three at Wolves it'll put massive pressure on the Treetards to pick points in their home-banker against reigning Premier League, FA Cup & Champions League holders Manchester Cit-eh...

I do hate it when I agree with you Bris.  I love Warne.  As a bloke he's great, and as a manager he's not too shabby either, but if we're languishing around the bottom as we approach Christmas then like any other manager he should be let go.  Most fans would be prepared to yo-yo between the Prem & Championship, but not Championship & League 1.  But he's done an amazing job this season, and if we do go up, he deserves a chance.

It pains me to say it, but they'll stay up, simply by the virtue of Burnley & Luton being slightly more rubbish than them.  Having said that, if Luton grab a point or three at Wolves it'll put massive pressure on the Treetards to pick points in their home-banker against reigning Premier League, FA Cup & Champions League holders Manchester Cit-eh...

I know we’d should be all nice to Cardiff this off season as we all want them to let us have Ebou, but this is feckin disgusting behaviour. Their chairman is as bad as Courig and the dog finger up North…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckmj4gedjr5o

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"A figure of 120.2m euros (£104m) was estimated after "an in-depth analysis" by a legal expert"
£119m of that will be his fees 

I know we’d should be all nice to Cardiff this off season as we all want them to let us have Ebou, but this is feckin disgusting behaviour. Their chairman is as bad as Courig and the dog finger up North…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckmj4gedjr5o

Sorry but Ive already voted for @RoyMac5

This is a point a lot of folk are missing.  Rotherham were doing well before he came to us.  Now I know a lot of folks will shout "But they'd only played 10 games!" which is a fair statement, but how many times have we sat here and after a tricky start to a season said "I'll give him/I think we should give the man 10 games, and see where we are"?  
I can remember when the rumour was first mooted that he was coming in and Rotherham fans were asked their opinion on his style and plenty of responses were that he had them playing better, more expansive football than they had at anytime under him.

What I don't get is, all their fans crying that there's a conspiracy against them.  Like if these decisions went their way they'd be pulling a Leicester and blowing the fabled Top 6 out the water.  Even if they'd gotten half of the 'supposedly' dodgy calls in their favour, they'd still be sh!t, just sh!t with a few more points.  But instead of pointing the finger at the fat bar-steward of a chairman, dross players or the crappy recruitment team, they're deflecting.  They should face up to the fact that they've blown close to £300 million to go backwards, instead of believing that the EPL are scared of them becoming the next Premier League powerhouse, and somehow sticking it to the elite  It's not the 70's anymore...

What I don't get is, all their fans crying that there's a conspiracy against them.  Like if these decisions went their way they'd be pulling a Leicester and blowing the fabled Top 6 out the water.  Even if they'd gotten half of the 'supposedly' dodgy calls in their favour, they'd still be sh!t, just sh!t with a few more points.  But instead of pointing the finger at the fat bar-steward of a chairman, dross players or the crappy recruitment team, they're deflecting.  They should face up to the fact that they've blown close to £300 million to go backwards, instead of believing that the EPL are scared of them becoming the next Premier League powerhouse, and somehow sticking it to the elite  It's not the 70's anymore...

The club seem very worried about going down. Surely, with all their huge spending they've factored in the impact of a relegation, right?
Obviously, no one wants to go down, but a bit of yo-yoing could be expected for a club like Forest, on their journey to becoming (at least) an established Premier League club?
I guess they were unable to stay within the rules for spending though, hence the points deduction. For their sake, I hope all this spending hasn't left the club/owner in financial ruin if the mighty Forest were somehow, unbelivably, and of course unfairly, relegated!

What I don't get is, all their fans crying that there's a conspiracy against them.  Like if these decisions went their way they'd be pulling a Leicester and blowing the fabled Top 6 out the water.  Even if they'd gotten half of the 'supposedly' dodgy calls in their favour, they'd still be sh!t, just sh!t with a few more points.  But instead of pointing the finger at the fat bar-steward of a chairman, dross players or the crappy recruitment team, they're deflecting.  They should face up to the fact that they've blown close to £300 million to go backwards, instead of believing that the EPL are scared of them becoming the next Premier League powerhouse, and somehow sticking it to the elite  It's not the 70's anymore...

What I don't get is, all their fans crying that there's a conspiracy against them.  Like if these decisions went their way they'd be pulling a Leicester and blowing the fabled Top 6 out the water.  Even if they'd gotten half of the 'supposedly' dodgy calls in their favour, they'd still be sh!t, just sh!t with a few more points.  But instead of pointing the finger at the fat bar-steward of a chairman, dross players or the crappy recruitment team, they're deflecting.  They should face up to the fact that they've blown close to £300 million to go backwards, instead of believing that the EPL are scared of them becoming the next Premier League powerhouse, and somehow sticking it to the elite  It's not the 70's anymore...

This is a point a lot of folk are missing.  Rotherham were doing well before he came to us.  Now I know a lot of folks will shout "But they'd only played 10 games!" which is a fair statement, but how many times have we sat here and after a tricky start to a season said "I'll give him/I think we should give the man 10 games, and see where we are"?  
I can remember when the rumour was first mooted that he was coming in and Rotherham fans were asked their opinion on his style and plenty of responses were that he had them playing better, more expansive football than they had at anytime under him.

Two of David Clowes’ aims when he took over the Club were to bring integrity and also establish ourselves in the Championship within 5 years. We didn’t get promotion last year, much to many fans angst. On reflection, it was probably a good job we didn’t. We would still have been working to a strict business plan which would have tied our hands in the transfer market to some degree and made the season very difficult.
We have recruited quite a few players this year who will be able to play in the Championship next year. Some recruits haven’t been quite so successful. We will have a reasonable pot for transfers this year we have been told. Probably, Wildsmith, Nyambe, Cashin,Nelson,Elder,Ward,Wilson,Mendis-Laing,Blackett-Taylor,Sibley,Forsyth,Rooney should be ok in the Championship - I personally have more concerns about Smith, Collins, Barkhaizen, Thompson, Fornah, Gayle, Washington, Vickers.  We will lose Bird and Adams (for now?)
I think, with some shrewd business, we should be able to put together a competitive squad.
in terms of integrity, I think our progression has been amazing. There has been hardly any, if at all, negative news regarding our club in the media. The Management team all absolutely appear to be working together to a common goal. We have recruited (not to everyone’s like) good people, who want to play for the shirt, not just here for the money, as in the past. The Academy has made good progress in its rebuild and the are a few players who look to have good futures, hopefully as Derby players.
At our best and most confident, we do play some exciting football, score goals and don’t concede many. Yes, we would like to see more of the exciting times but our main aim has been to get out of this difficult league this year. Too often in the past we have had a soft underbelly and have struggled against strong, aggressive teams. We currently have a side, which mainly, doesn’t buckle against this type of side.
So I am happy with the progress of Derby County this last two years and look forward to what will happen next. David Clowes is a quietly shrewd business man and I think Paul Warne is an intelligent manager, who is a lot shrewder and football wise than many give him credit for. Not only this but he is a fantastic man-manager and team spirit builder.
Can’t wait to see what happens next.
 

This is a point a lot of folk are missing.  Rotherham were doing well before he came to us.  Now I know a lot of folks will shout "But they'd only played 10 games!" which is a fair statement, but how many times have we sat here and after a tricky start to a season said "I'll give him/I think we should give the man 10 games, and see where we are"?  
I can remember when the rumour was first mooted that he was coming in and Rotherham fans were asked their opinion on his style and plenty of responses were that he had them playing better, more expansive football than they had at anytime under him.

Oh I don’t know about that.  I reckon I’d have a good shout at keeping Mikel Beck in my pocket.  And I was never a centre back 😂 

Kin is the best show of the year for me, really loved it.  I'm very grateful for ex Ram John Brayford for recommending it...