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I guess winning with 10 ain’t for everyone… 

So if you're reading this B4, stop with the soddin penalties already!!!

So if you're reading this B4, stop with the soddin penalties already!!!

It’s a long way to Lincoln when you’re 💩 That chant made me laugh 😂 Enjoyed the match tonight. Had a pic with Rammie too 🐏 

Recruitment is key.  Some of the best players we've had in the past 10 years cost us peanuts.
Martin, Forsyth, Bryson, Davies, Morrison, Byrne, Bird, Cashin, Sibley, Knight were brought in, or developed for less that it cost us to buy Nick Blackman...

Perhaps his Mrs has left him and he's suffering from the Lawrence Fox effect...

Perhaps his Mrs has left him and he's suffering from the Lawrence Fox effect...

Recruitment is key.  Some of the best players we've had in the past 10 years cost us peanuts.
Martin, Forsyth, Bryson, Davies, Morrison, Byrne, Bird, Cashin, Sibley, Knight were brought in, or developed for less that it cost us to buy Nick Blackman...

I'm entirely for finding other investors to bring into club as long as - 
- They have the best interests of the club in mind
- Still run the club in a sensible and sustainable way
I for one wouldn't want to go back to Uncle Mel's way of ludicrous spending, but I'm not a fan of the supposed penny pinching either.  I'd rather we had a middle ground where we use whatever funds we have wisely instead of spunking £4m + wages on the likes of Jacob 'Smiler' Butterfield

I'm entirely for finding other investors to bring into club as long as - 
- They have the best interests of the club in mind
- Still run the club in a sensible and sustainable way
I for one wouldn't want to go back to Uncle Mel's way of ludicrous spending, but I'm not a fan of the supposed penny pinching either.  I'd rather we had a middle ground where we use whatever funds we have wisely instead of spunking £4m + wages on the likes of Jacob 'Smiler' Butterfield

I really don't think Mr Clowes needs you to suggest this course of action to him.  I'd hazard a guess it's been in his thoughts since he signed on the dotted line to become our owner...

Speaking too soon also goes both ways and doesn't just apply to negativity. There were similar themes banded about when we went on the unbeaten run last season, with some calling others out for their doubts and criticisms earlier in the season as if they'd been proven wrong by our good spell.
Surely you have to wonder if those people have learned anything about speaking too soon, too? Although I'd suggest it's the opposite and the number of people looking to use our positive form against other posters has actually increased.
I think it's perfectly possible to support the team during games, want them to win and be happy in the short term (even if it's just in the immediate aftermath) with positive results and performances, while still holding the belief that the manager has serious limitations which will hold us back in the long run, and feel that he isn't developing tactically or actually building anything toward a more sustainable future, be that the playing style, meaningful minutes given to Academy players or whatever else.
I believe a winning streak was always likely to happen because the league and most teams in it are terrible (even 'good' ones are nothing special, as we've seen when we've played them), because we've got a better squad (even with injuries, even with some signings offering little) than most, and because the manager we employ is a promotion expert who's seemingly being allowed to focus purely on achieving just that, and I mean just that, making his job pretty straightforward.
If I was assessing Warne on the sole criteria of "do we look like mounting a serious promotion challenge?" (which is the least we should be looking at) and was to cast aside any thoughts about his overall suitability for the longer term challenge of establishing ourselves back in the Championship then IMO he's performing at a solid 7.5-8/10, and I'd probably agree that all we need is patience.

This is unbelievably sad news.  As everyone else has echoed already, my thoughts are with his loved ones in such a tragic time. 
 
As much as I occasionally took the mick out the lad (his staunch defence of Callum Ball was never not funny), his unwavering passion & support for the club was inspirational 

This is unbelievably sad news.  As everyone else has echoed already, my thoughts are with his loved ones in such a tragic time. 
 
As much as I occasionally took the mick out the lad (his staunch defence of Callum Ball was never not funny), his unwavering passion & support for the club was inspirational 

As I reflect on this upsetting news and read how it's affected so many I feel that I must let it be known how much my matchday experience will never be the same again. I have sat in the same seat in the East Stand since it was built, together with my wife, and sat right in front for many years was Daniel and his dad. I am a regular reader of this forum but rarely contribute. I do remember when there was much speculation as to who top fan B4 was. It eventually dawned on me that he must have been sat in front all that time. He reluctantly admitted that he was indeed the one and only B4.
I should have known because I had been discussing team selection and tactics every game for years. Half time changes that were always needed were rarely implemented by the manager, who should have known better. Sweets were often handed around and whatever happened on the pitch Daniel's support was unwavering and I sometimes felt ashamed that I couldn't raise my game when things just weren't happening and I had a feeling of impending doom.
It was a shock not to see and hear him yesterday but it was a privilege to have known Daniel.
 

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??

I still find it hard to fathom that a good number of fans are actively having a pop at our owner.  This is a man who did not want to get involved, but simply had to because he knew what the likely alternative was.  It also pisses me off that folk think he should sell up at the earliest opportunity because he didn't spunk £3m on a striker in the summer.  Only he, along with his accountants, truly know how bad it was when he started his due diligence, so he'll do whatever he can to ensure we don't get in that state again.  If we're moaning at anyone, perhaps we should be moaning at the head of recruitment for not finding the wheat amongst the chaff, in the last transfer window.
As for bringing in, and for the time being, sticking with Warne.  If you had the choice between a novice manager or someone who has 3 promotions from this division, to get you out of it, who are 99% of people going to choose??