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17 hours ago, SillyBilly said:

Nostalgia won't save the BBC; we will watch a slow death of just about everything to do it with it over the next 20 years. I haven't watched terrestial TV in years which is part of their problem as I'm not alone. I have a RamsTV subscription which I consider ample coverage of the club, so even pay-to-view at a club level has caught up with it there. The reality is ever greater numbers of us pay to watch the content we want (as opposed to pay to watch what we don't) and the BBC can't rely on it having a monopoly courtesy of there being little choice. There is a lot of choice now and they're struggling to adapt. Sad but the world is moving on.

Yes a choice of watching 10-12 minutes of ads every hour or paying good money for subscriptions to a digital channel that you watch maybe once or twice a week. Time will tell whether Netflix and the like have a future. Would help if they made a profit!

6 hours ago, i-Ram said:

I think my only experience of local radio in the last 40 years has been when I visit my mum in Ledbury. BBC Radio Hereford & Worcester blaring out from her old Roberts Transister, with the presenter wittering on about tractor prices or sheep shearing, and playing the latest grooves by Chicory Tip and Baccara. Room 101 stuff.

You obviously haven't listened for 40 years!

21 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

As far as I'm aware Ashley has never actually put a bid in for the club despite all of the bluster about his millions.

He's due as much compensation for not buying the club as my grandads ferret (who also didn't bother bidding)

Shame on you. I think you've just broken the NDA about the ferret's bid !!

3 hours ago, Crewton said:

That was when Morris was trying to sell the club, not in an administration scenario. Why would Clowes want a "silent partner" who clearly doesn't want to invest any more money into the club? 

I think some folk might have the bogie man stuck in their heads. 

 

I think it is fair to say that the prospective new owner is very much his own man and won't want or have any need for a former owner there causing any potential distress or interference. 

10 minutes ago, Mihangel said:

A little nuance in the statements - Clowes has bought the company that owes the stadium rather than the stadium itself so one could assume from that that the debt still exists within that company. Unless some deal was done with MM of course....

Well spotted. So that would suggest that DC has taken over the loan and that MSD have agreed to continue it, so reducing the need for ready cash to pay it off at this stage..However, both DC and the EFL in statements refer to the sale and purchase of the stadium so it clearly has changed hands.

50 minutes ago, Owen87ITK said:

There was never £3m on the table for Tom Lawrence.

A big issue with most of the various bids in January was that very little of the money offered was up-front, and therefore wasn’t really of any use at all. 

That is what made the Crystal Palace offer for Plange different. 

When we hopefully get to the end of this complete shambles, it is to be hoped that the truth comes out and we get a chance to hear the facts about how the club, its supporters and staff have been badly let down.

16 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said:

I don't think Villa were better than us. I thought Leeds and WBA were better than them and we beat both. If Lampard had picked Marriott instead of Bennett for the final I think we would have won 

Thinking back, how on earth did he go with Bennett, after Marriott's performance at Leeds? Bizarre, a case of over-thinking or thinking wrongly?

8 minutes ago, Derbados said:

Absolutely, last thing he ever expected is Mel appearing from nowhere and firing shots across their bows. 

Safe to say I reckon he’ll be enraged tonight 

That .....and booted out of the Cup hopefully

1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

I agree,they were banking on putting us under massive pressure when we were in  position of weakness to get a cheap payout which wouldn't be contested,just so we could get a deal over the line.

This offer tho will absolutely floor them as they know that Mel will walk all over them in an actual court of law.

Not sure how this will pan out yet but it could be a master stroke by Mel because if they refuse to go down this route,it leaves the EFL in a very different position in terms of their "impartiality".

The spotlight still on the EFL for their conduct. No surprise chairman Rick Parry seems in favour of the move by Morris. No doubt thinking it may ease the pressure on them and put it back on the two clubs.

18 minutes ago, Addingham Ram said:

Surely can't be right as Sky's Rob Dorsett said it was about 2000 ?. Looking at those pictures and videos I know who I believe.

Is that the same Rob Dorsett who told us last week he had just found out the size of the club's debt, which had been actually been known for months?

Seen this?

2 hours ago, StaffsRam said:

Of course. Neither of those are huge losses against the value of the club again though. Baldock was out of contract imminently, and Marshall in the Summer(?). One seemed almost permanently injured and the other permanently unselectable. Both wages saved, reducing again the amount of £££ needed to see out the season without having a huge effect on the team. 

Jason Knight supposed  to be the next out for a Premiership club, but the club/admins should wait a few days to see if the MPs, petitions etc can get a change in approach from the EFL  

5 hours ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

 

Ed Dawes can do one as well. Won’t be listening to all the usual suspects talking mostly nonsense. 

May be time for him to move on....

Thumbs up to RamsTV tonight as well for an excellent commentary on the game from Owen B and Shaun B.

57 minutes ago, davenportram said:

I think the EFL are trying to save face - how can we be punished for doing something that at the time was accepted by the EFL as not breaking the rules but they retrospectively decide wasnt within the rules?

Because it could be that they are close to being made to look a bunch of mugs. They are desperate not to throw in the towel because their stance in this has been over the top and out of line. They need to pin a points deduction on the club, to give their actions merit. Where any 9 point deduction comes from is a continuing mystery, when only a fine has been deemed appropriate by an independent  panel.

On the other hand, it could be the club are bang in the wrong or perhaps Percy is circulating complete tosh. It's not the first time that we have seen such alleged information about this situation from him, all of which has drifted away into oblivion.. 

On 31/08/2021 at 13:58, Sparkle said:

Worth noting that the foreign office actually have Jamaica down as a do not travel ( meaning insurance not valid) whilst still sat in amber currently 

Covid outbreak is increasing again in Jamaica...number of cases has been increasing steadily again and is approaching the peak of last March.

They have to make it interesting for neutral viewers so tend to pick up and thrash the major events of the game. This in turn can annoy more partisan viewers. Apart from that, many of the commentators they use on Championship matches are below par.  

10 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Why is Percy's reputation all of a sudden being dismissed?

He has been the most reliable journo for Derby news for years. He is clearly getting fed info from within the club.

Yes he released articles etc over the takeovers which didnt end up being finalised but they were still clearly based off info passed to him from the club, and since then the likes of Radio Derby and I think even Pearce have said things which pretty much back up what Percy said at the time.

I dont think for one second he would release an article which could go against his reputation just because he is a Forest fan & we play them on Sat.

Seems to me that a lot of the stuff put out by Percy is a load of tosh, just trying to keep the pot simmering. Most of his "stories" are  wide of the truth, but nobody notices because by the time the actual information comes out, we have all moved on....and forgotten. 

His background summaries are often erroneous too. Let's wait for the real facts.

Reporter from BBC Radio 5 at the game said that Rooney had told him that he's confident the transfer embargo will be lifted on Tuesday...

On 19/08/2021 at 09:51, LeedsRam1999 said:

Boro will be a different beast I fear. They won’t allow us as much space. Time to see if this team can break someone down who wont allow us too much time on the ball.

Same team. I have the faith, and so should you all. 
 

COYR

At least with Lawrence and CKR both out, there's a chance of us moving the ball much faster upfront.

It looks like it's long-term but the club may be allowed to bring in someone as cover, if he is out for a fair time.....

10 hours ago, David said:

I just want to apologise for the delay, my absence, my handling of the situation and try to explain what has happened.

The meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to end at 8.45pm, my last train home was 9.33pm, I slipped out just after 9pm as I didn’t have clothes, medication, toiletries with me as I wasn’t planning on staying overnight.

When the meeting had finished, an agreement was made where one statement would be written and signed off by all groups, this is the first time anything like this had been agreed, I was under the impression we would be allowed to report back as normal.

Being completely unaware of this, whilst waiting for my train I saw a conversation take place on my Twitter timeline discussing the meeting minutes, when would they be out.

I replied, that the meeting minutes were not taken and we would be sharing the information ourselves, which as I say I was under the impression would be allowed, why else attend? I thought I was being helpful.

Now I can see on reflection I was clearly naive in not appreciating the number of fans waiting online for what was said at the meeting, would see the tweet whilst was part of a conversation, which was also public and could be seen and shared by others. The tweet blew up online having been retweeted, I’m not exaggerating when I say maybe hundred or more replies, some abusive to the point where I had to turn notifications off as my phone was freezing with as I came back into an area with phone signal.

On the forum I did pre warn members not to expect anything Wednesday evening, the minutes can sometimes take a few days to a couple of weeks before being released. I was going with the intention of asking the club if the minutes could be released within 24 hours or that we could release the information immediately. Obviously once we was told the minutes would not be taken all that went out the window and believed we was free to report back immediately, and that was the plan.

Again, I was clearly naive to the fact fans on Twitter would not be aware of this, so when I wasn’t replying to all the tweets with thumbs up or down if it’s good news, or are we going to have a club next week the levels of abuse increased, despite my plea for being understanding I wasn’t in the position to do so.

With my write up, I had no intention of adding any personal opinion, it would be just what was said and allow you all to read and take it as you will.

As you will be well aware, all fans see things differently and I didn’t want to raise any expectations or disappoint fans, then receive more abuse as it wasn’t what they were expecting.

I put myself in this situation through naivety, but I don’t accept that the abuse was warranted at all, I have removed the twitter account from my devices and will no longer be active on that account, opting now for a private account as I have no interest in twitter fame.

I would seriously urge anyone that did send me abusive tweets to have a think how they talk to people online and their demands, if this is this what celebrities have to deal with on a daily basis, I’m glad I’m just a nobody!

Punjabi Rams, who I honestly can’t thank enough stepped in and put some tweets out from their account to give some information in my defence. You guys are awesome, didn’t need to do that but again, I honestly can’t thank you enough. Quick plug www.punjabirams.co.uk, @PunjabiRams on Twitter, go give them a follow if you are on there.

On the train home I started to do the write up on my notes app, realising I need to get this out asap, first thing to defuse the situation I felt I had created.

Thursday morning, as I was consulting my notes and finishing off the write up, there was a few things I wanted to fact check with the club were totally accurate, there has been times where things have been misheard in the past (Boycie ahem) and needed correcting, I didn’t want this to happen. We’re human, mistakes can happen, I believed I had time to ensure there were none.

I decided, and this was not requested by the club but to send my write up to them, asking if they could read it over and everything I had written was totally accurate, leaving ??? <—— fact checks where I was a little cautious over.

They agreed and I again naively yet again assumed that this would be back with me in a few hours……despite the previous night listening to just how busy they have been.

Now whilst I understand and totally agree that this meeting is important, the club staff are as I’m sure you can imagine really busy, now I need to really stress here that this is in no way the fault of the club, this is on me 100%.

No tweet, no forum post, none of this situation exists.

Meanwhile The Supporters Charter Group are scratching their heads as to why I’ve gone it alone, I can only apologise to them also, as I say I was under the impression that we would all be reporting back ourselves which I have explained privately with them.

A single statement isn’t something I would have been personally happy with but that is what was agreed in my absence.

I haven’t felt comfortable coming back on the forum if I'm honest, ignoring the fact I insinuated what was said at the meeting would be out Thursday on the forum, I feel like I have let you all down and for that I’m sorry.

Just to add, this apology wasn’t asked for, it's something I feel is owed to you all.

Should someone have gone that could have stayed all evening? Ideally yes, although Paul (Boycie) was unavailable to attend. Since the formation of 2017 it has only been either myself or Paul that has attended, I didn’t feel it would be right to send someone new which in hindsight was the correct call, they may have also not been able to attend until the end of what I’m led to believe turned out to be almost a 4 hour long meeting, putting themselves unwittingly into a similar situation I have.

I know you are all frustrated, the accusations of attention seeking, sitting on information, teasing, trying to get more views, followers etc. and even censorship on the forum are simply not true, they come from people that do not know me or how the forum is run at all, which is disappointing hearing it said by members that have been on the forum for a number of years now.

Finally, I do want to say thank you to those who have sent supportive texts, PM’s, DM’s, tweets you name it over the last few days, despite asking to be given time, it’s you who I put the hours in for, I will learn from this and work on handling things better in the future.

I would also like to thank the moderators who have been trying their best to keep on top of the situation, without them this forum would have crashed and burned over the last few days so please be respectful to them, even if at times you do not agree with decisions they have made. 

David

 

For the sort of meeting that this turned out to be, it is ridiculous that the club insisted on no minutes to be taken. This should have been made clear in advance of the meeting taking place. They should therefore have allowed someone to take part in the discussion and someone else to make notes.

It's probably severely dented Samuelson's chance to do business with football clubs in future. Up-front, anyway. It will probably not help us, just being associated with this guy and the overall tenor of the programme. Just unfortunate Mel chose to consider doing business with this company two years ago. The man did have a seemingly useful track record at the time. Anyway, the EFL didn't come out  of it, smelling of roses.

11 hours ago, rsmini said:

Just set it up to record. It’s on Virgin TV channel 622.. strap line says “The I-unit goes undercover to expose how English football clubs can be bought by criminals and become vehicles to the proceeds of their crimes”

It's also on Freeview 235 or Sky 513.

Rumour apparently in Turkish papers that Galatasaray have made an opening bid for Jozwiak. Said to be close to Derby's valuation.