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21 hours ago, Archied said:

Here’s what interest me , you are so pro mask wearing in indoors setting that you wear one when not mandated by government and pilloried anyone not follow your choice yet by your own admission you have been happy to walk into a pub wearing a mask but sit drinking without it ( pure theatre ) 

seems it’s ok to follow rules when suits , if you truly believe masks should be worn in indoor settings to protect others you would have been discarding gov rules and not drinking in a pub without one 

I don’t have a phobia of masks I have a phobia of bs. 

I guess it's about reducing overall risk and priorities. It doesn't need to be all or nothing and just because there's an inconsistency doesn't mean it's bs. 

Pubs/Restaurants can't function if you have to wear your mask at all times, but cinemas and theatres can. Likewise with buses, trains and supermarkets.

You also aren't required to go in to pubs and restaurants, but supermarkets, pharmacies etc are a different story.

It's a common sense approach to reducing risk....

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

That was the method used against Macclesfield in 19/20

Controversially... They would have stayed up otherwise.

11 hours ago, Lander said:

With the recent outbreak of the new covid variant along with increasing restrictions, I wonder how much potential there is for this to happen.

That’s my wishful thinking done for now.

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14 minutes ago, CornwallRam said:

I wonder how a Pheonix club could fit in to all this?

I don't think it be possible for the administrators to sell the golden share (membership of the league) without the new club taking on debt. However, I do think that if liquidation becomes the only option, a new company could buy the trademarks and memorabilia and simply be seen as a continuation of Derby County, similar to what happened with Rangers. It would effectively wipe away all the debts.

I think the big difference would be that we'd have to restart below EFL level, so we wouldn't be able to afford Pride Park until we (hopefully) managed a few promotions. 

In all honesty if there was a phoenix club if be more worried that pride Park gets redeveloped into flats or something by whoever buys it. 

Positive news is that deaths are falling (although high), rates of hospitalisation are falling (although still high). Cases have been rising to very high levels but seemed to have flattened off and starting to fall a bit. 

Think the gov are doing the right thing here by telling everyone to put on masks inside and frankly shouldn't have stopped saying. 

This new variant has got people worried but there's still a lot we don't know so taking precautions is good but we've not got much to go on it whether how much in practice it impacts the vaccines effectiveness, how infectious it is and most importantly whether it's more or less dangerous.

I don't think we need to be doom and gloom yet. 

Grrrrr. Great finish but very avoidable. 

Lawrence ran the wrong way! 

Top top goal 

We need, from now on, about 1.7 points per game if we have any chance to stay up. We can't afford to lose many more games this season. Winning tonight would be a great way to start the Christmas period... Should have a few 'easier' fixtures against Bristol, Cardiff, Blackpool after this.. 

Fingers crossed this variant is nothing to be worried about.. We'll know in a couple of week.. 

10 hours ago, maxjam said:

I guess a new symptomless strain doesn't have the same appeal as the new uber mutant Botswana variant ? 

I mean why would it, frankly. This new variant has supposedly turned up over last couple of weeks and gone from 0% of the sequenced samples to nearly 100%. Cases are low, though. 

Let's see what happens in SA over the next couple of weeks - if the trajectory continues as it is we are screwed because it is probably already here. 

Derby crop up a couple of times in the report - basically suggests we are/were badly managed, partly due to a lack of functioning boardroom. 

Not as scathing as Id hoped about the efl but does say that the p&s scheme doesn't work properly and that theres a conflict of interest in its regulatory powers, the report suggests that they don't investigate enough and that the club appointed board doesn't work properly. 

Just seen two blokes with Roos' dirty matchworn shirt on the tube back to central London... 

4 minutes ago, EranioIsGod said:

How did Fozzy get on considering all I've seen since yesterday's Buchanan news on Twitter and Facebook , is the usual vitriol about our longest servant. 

He was fine but got unnecessary abuse in the stands. 

Great battled point. Rode some luck, weren't completely hapless, some great defending at times. Hats off and the away support was fantastic. 

Need to start moving the ball faster when roos gets the ball back

Also Fulham fans are frankly the least bothered fanbase I've ever seen. 

Fulham were looking more and more dangerous near the end of the half there. Happy it's half time. 

Seems like our tactic is to aimlessly keep possession at the moment but hope we can find a way through. 

Decided I'd go after work. Any away pubs near the ground? 

If we stay up it'd be a minor miracle and Rooney would be up there with our best managers of all time. 

If we win the next 10 games in a row we might stay up. 

10 minutes ago, Black ('n' White) Sheep said:

Just seen the Reading news... So how come they only get 6 points deducted for breaching P&S and we got 9? Someone enlighten me?

Didn't we technically fail multiple periods and they failed one

Would love to hear @The Baron's view on the final outcome as he is thought as (rightfully or wrongly) as the catalyst for this charge by the efl. 

My view is that the decision notice and the statement by the EFL shows that the agreed decision has some glaring holes in it. For example the £30M additional money couldn't be counted as income for reasons unexplained. 

The fact parry has said it is important to respect the 'principals' of FFP on behalf of other clubs (tactic admission that the rules are not well written). 

The fact that the agreement could only be made if Derby withdrew the admin appeal (these are of course technically unrelated breaches) - suggests that Derby have a reasonable case but efl unwilling to work with us on it properly. 

The fact that the efl state that the restated accounts were never actually submitted in August even though at the time they said they had - my belief is that they were submitted but in fact they weren't thought to be by the efl as being compliant with FRS102 and now the club are being asked to 'agree' that they weren't without that actually being tested in the open.

The reference to straight line amortisation in the agreement where it doesn't actually say that in the regulations (and it could have done). 

The agreement doesn't state why the breaches were only noticed years later.

The fact that the club and the efl have to agree on any further statement means that we'll never ever actually find out what happened behind the scenes. 

Seems to me this outcome is basically due to the fact that the efl have all the time in the world and Derby are running out of money. 

The EFLs actions have been vindictive and Mel/Pearce have not covered their backs enough by making things clear enough when the accounts were submitted to make our case watertight. 

INDEPENDENT REGULATOR FOR EPL, EFL AND NATIONAL LEAGUE NOW. 

10 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Agreed. As I said in an ealier post they should not be negotiating with the administrators as their ultimate goal is not what is in the best interests of the club, whereas the EFLs should be.

I think what we've learned is how the efl operates without a regulator. The efl have no incentive to ever moves things along at haste and they wish to avoid scrutiny. 

The rules can remain the same in my view but the procedure needs to be better defined, with binding time limits for negotiation , and an independent regulator needs to handle the process. The efl will then be minded to improve. 

The efl aren't there to protect fans interests, or even fairness, it's just an organisation that acts on the whims of chairman majority regardless of legal merit. 

If anyone followed macclesfields expulsion from the league... 

I'm gutted it's unlikely we'll never see a thorough dissection of the efl and derbys arguments. 

Fans have been competely let down. 

I hope the efl and Derby publish a full explanation of what rules have been alleged to have been broken, the alleged values of the overspend, amortisation methods etc. 

The EFL have frankly had us by the balls for months and months. The rules and regulators need to change.. It's not fair that fans of the team involved have to be left in uncertainty for years and years.